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| Thread ID: 105798 | 2009-12-14 20:02:00 | Two flags? | Cicero (40) | PC World Chat |
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| 839652 | 2009-12-15 03:24:00 | Not another Virginia Tech sort of dude are you? Not completely sure I know the guy you are referring to, was that the guy who blew up the government building? Or the other guy who went on the shooting spree at some power plant? Meh, might be barking up the completely wrong tree here :rolleyes: I have been labeled as racist before, but who gives a flying ****? |
Bozo (8540) | ||
| 839653 | 2009-12-15 03:51:00 | Did Maori even have flags, traditionally? I remember at school decades ago, being taught the Maori word for 'pen" and I was .... uh..... huh? Not sure what you mean by "traditional", but the Confederation of United Tribes of New Zealand had a flag designed and recognised by the Governor (James Busby) in 1834 - predating the Treaty. See here if you are interested: www.mch.govt.nz From that article: "Busby's hope that the flag would provide a means for encouraging Maori to act collectively was partially fulfilled when many of the chiefs involved went on to sign the Declaration of Independence in 1835. To Maori, the United Tribes flag was significant in that Britain had recognised New Zealand as an independent nation with its own flag, and in doing so, had acknowledged the mana of the Maori chiefs." |
John H (8) | ||
| 839654 | 2009-12-15 04:15:00 | Did Maori even have flags, traditionally? No they only had flax they wouldnt have fluttered very well more like a wind vane. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 839655 | 2009-12-15 21:12:00 | Wow. Thankyou for that. I had no idea. I'd be quite happy for that flag to fly next to the "official" NZ flag. At least it was chosen by Chiefs who at least had a little respect for and from the settlers - unlike the current flag, which is more of a political/protest/whining symbol. Plus it's part of our history. Unfortunately, "some people" are selective when it comes to history - hence the "what's in it for me?" mentality. |
Peterj116 (6762) | ||
| 839656 | 2009-12-15 21:24:00 | Maori flag looks like two fists | Gobe1 (6290) | ||
| 839657 | 2009-12-16 05:30:00 | One simply can't argue,though it seems some must......... Two flags,two people,is that what we want? I think not! |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 839658 | 2009-12-16 07:12:00 | You're a sad old twat Cicero. The United Kingdom has flags for Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, England, and the Union. Probably one for Cornwall as well. No-one has any problem with people flying both the Cross of St George and the Union flag in England - it is just taken for granted.* The world didn't come to an end when Cathy Freeman carried both the Aussie and Aboriginal flags in her lap of honour at the Olympics. What are you so threatened about? Instead of your negative whiny response, think of it in terms of two peoples, two flags, one country. Already we have one national anthem for the country sung in two of the three official languages. A sign of maturity, not division. Sad that you can't see that. * Oh, I forgot the Isle of Man, which even has its own laws and judicial system. |
John H (8) | ||
| 839659 | 2009-12-16 08:06:00 | The United Kingdom has flags for Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, England, and the Union. Probably one for Cornwall as well. No-one has any problem with people flying both the Cross of St George and the Union flag in England - it is just taken for granted.* Not by anyone I know, I hate the fact that all those dominions now have parliaments and flags yet still want to hide behind the English skirt when things turn nasty. I left for those type of reasons, your either one nation or your not, this state within a state is exactly what apartheid is in all but name |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 839660 | 2009-12-16 09:02:00 | Not by anyone I know, I hate the fact that all those dominions now have parliaments and flags yet still want to hide behind the English skirt when things turn nasty. I left for those type of reasons, your either one nation or your not, this state within a state is exactly what apartheid is in all but name The Poms just can't take it when the natives get restless, can they? How quaint that you should refer to Scotland and Wales as "dominions"!! They were only "dominated" by the English for a brief period of their history - they have just returned to what was always a reality for all those Scots and Welsh who never took on a colonised mindset. Ireland got rid of the English eventually too because they refused to accept colonisation. Those nations have always had a flag and a system of government until the English butted in where they weren't wanted. And you really should look up the proper meaning of apartheid so you don't keep making the mistake you made in your post. It is a common error to confuse voluntary self development as a people (which is all that Māori want, as I understand it) with apartheid, which is a legally imposed state of forced separate development (by which the South Africans meant "we whites develop and you blacks labour to ensure that happens"). |
John H (8) | ||
| 839661 | 2009-12-16 09:11:00 | Well I liked this flag. Nothing too complex. | B.M. (505) | ||
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