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Thread ID: 105978 2009-12-21 01:14:00 What to test drive? beetle (243) PC World Chat
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841783 2009-12-28 18:38:00 I've never heard of "modes" but I suspect power density may be some weird politically-correct measurement of power to weight.... johcar (6283)
841784 2009-12-29 03:02:00 Take a Mazda 6 2.3ltr wagon (www.aa.co.nz) for a drive (www.aacarfair.co.nz) (plenty of power and room, 2wd), or Mazda CX7 (www.aa.co.nz) (same but bigger/more room, 4 cylinder turbocharged 2.3ltr engine and 4wd). feersumendjinn (64)
841785 2009-12-30 01:10:00 I dunnow about a turbo for a single woman - not that they cannot handle them, but they require a bit more mechanical attitude to drive one successfully.

Here's another to NOT consider: we've had a bunch of deaths and one car accidents with these in the US - this reports is from Texas -

Monty Hardy, 56, of Southlake and Hadassah Vance, 35, of Euless, died at Baylor Regional Medical Center in Grapevine on Saturday.

Wendy Akion, 38, of Irving and Sharon Ransom, 56, of Grapevine, died early Sunday morning at the same hospital.

The car all four were inside at the time of the crash was a 2008 Toyota Avalon, which was among the models recalled last month over concerns about gas pedals getting stuck on floor mats and causing sudden acceleration. Page said he does not know if the owner had taken the car in for repairs or adjustments.

Toyota recalled four million cars.

Investigators said the driver - Hardy - drowned, which challenged any theory he might have suffered an illness behind the wheel.
SurferJoe46 (51)
841786 2009-12-30 01:28:00 I dunnow about a turbo for a single woman - not that they cannot handle them, but they require a bit more mechanical attitude to drive one successfully .

Here's another to NOT consider: we've had a bunch of deaths and one car accidents with these in the US - this reports is from Texas -

I heard america toyota recalled that car, in nz they just changed the floor mats .
plod (107)
841787 2009-12-30 02:55:00 I heard america toyota recalled that car, in nz they just changed the floor mats .

It wasn't (isn't?) so much the floor mats getting OVER or on top of the throttle - but the throttle when pressed hard to the floor sunk in and hooked into the nap and just stayed there .

Got a buddy who is the Master Tech guy for a local Toyota dealer in this area and he said it took a whole new pedal assembly that changed the swing angle to keep the bottom of the linkage from sticking in a compound arc that was like a fish hook the way it hung onto the carpet . They tried different carpets and decided it wasn't the carpets fault - but the engineered angle on the compound pedal assembly .

There was a CHP lieutenant who died along with all his family that made Toyota really sit up and take notice . You'd think a trained and very competitive driver who has been a high speed trainer for the force would know to turn off the ignition or put the transmission into neutral - but it must've happened too fast to recognize the problem before it was too late .

Got me thinking here now - were these vehicles DBW? (Drive By Wire?)
SurferJoe46 (51)
841788 2009-12-30 07:13:00 Funny never thought it was much drama when the accelerator linkage would stick at full throttle on my 100E powered E93A.
The cause of the sticking was the linkage went over centre. To hook up the 100E carb to the E93A the linkage was heated and bent 90 deg upwards for the 100E carb.
It did it all the time I used to reach down and pull the accelerator pedal back up.
prefect (6291)
841789 2009-12-30 08:20:00 I dunnow about a turbo for a single woman - not that they cannot handle them, but they require a bit more mechanical attitude to drive one successfully .

I guess that must be turbo lag you are referring to (albeit obliquely) Joe, but as I understand it, this is no longer a problem with low inertia turbos and all sorts of other fiendish technical and electronic wizardry in our predominantly asian-sourced vehicles . It certainly seems to be the case in the test reports I read, and the days of flooring it, counting to 10 then holding on for grim death are long gone, along with two-foot braking and leaden steering that requires biceps like the gubbernator used to have just to turn out of your driveway .

Your maiden aunt could drive a modern turbo and probably not notice anything unusual .

Cheers

Billy *<8-{)=
Billy T (70)
841790 2009-12-30 09:21:00 The turbo may notice fairly frequent visits to the workshop ;) R2x1 (4628)
841791 2009-12-30 21:18:00 The mechanical maintenance is where I was going.

Wrong oil - not allowing cool downs and seal failures all still hamper turbos as a daily driver.
SurferJoe46 (51)
841792 2009-12-31 01:42:00 I see your point Joe, I guess I am used to using Authorised Dealer service where we can reasonably expect them to do a good job and use the correct oils etc. I have a lot less faith in 'We Service Anything' establishments.

Cheers

Billy *<8-{)=
Billy T (70)
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