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Thread ID: 106106 2009-12-27 03:13:00 Napier Deltic Richard (739) PC World Chat
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843350 2009-12-27 03:13:00 Well, they say you are never too old to learn!

Up until yesterday, after 71 years, I had never heard of a Napier Deltic diesel engine. But what a great machine, and somewhat complicated. I am guessing that the early UK Deltic powered locos were straight diesel power, not diesel electric. Terry and others may be able to confirm this. Is the Deltic still made? I was going to look up Wikipedia, but half the world must be doing the same thing at the moment. :thumbs:
Richard (739)
843351 2009-12-27 03:33:00 Yes, they were fitted in English Electric diesel electric locomotives, made by D Napier & Sons. The cylinders were arranged in an opposed delta shape.

Deltics were used in other applications. They were fitted into Norwegian fast patrol boats, whose commanders were somewhat reckless, a bit like the Navy Lark.....full throttle up to the dock side then thrown the thing into full reverse...sometimes the gearbox sheared...

These engines were prone to have turbo-blower seizures, but only in the Norwegian boats. It was found engineers stood on the blower as a convenient step to adjust some control, and the casing distorted and caused bearing misalignment

Edit: we had a several of ex-Napier men come up to English Electric Whetsone when a number of Napier bearing test rigs were moved there from Acton, they told us these stories of the Norwegian Navy Lark :)
Terry Porritt (14)
843352 2009-12-27 09:07:00 Thanks Terry, I finally got into Wikipedia to look up the Deltic engine. Fascinating. Shame that companies like this, who were innovative, have fallen by the wayside. Unionism perhaps?

I'm sure Metla would be interested in this diesel engine, it is after all, very heavy metal!
Richard (739)
843353 2009-12-27 17:54:00 By crikey Richard,wonder what the next exciting thing is going to catch your aged attention.

Must be wonderful to be all knowing!
Cicero (40)
843354 2009-12-27 19:37:00 Napier built some rad aircraft engines, the term thinking outside the box must have been the company motto.
My fav engine although truck is the screaming Commer engine from Rooted Group
prefect (6291)
843355 2009-12-27 20:16:00 Aaah the beautiful sounds of a TS3!!!

Used to have them arrive and drive inside the woolstore fully laden with wool bales to unload . What a beautiful sound in an enclosed building . The drivers knew it and used to put it on a bit!!

But that was in another time .

Ken
kenj (9738)
843356 2009-12-27 20:17:00 Napier built some rad aircraft engines, the term thinking outside the box must have been the company motto.
My fav engine (although for trucks) is the screaming Commer engine from Rooted Group (www.commer.org.nz)
(Sound files/animation at the bottom of page).
feersumendjinn (64)
843357 2009-12-27 20:34:00 From Wikipedia:

The Royal Navy used them first in the Dark-class

Lucas hits the waves?
R2x1 (4628)
843358 2009-12-27 20:43:00 I remember the Deltic Diesal/Electric locomotives but I believe they were replaced by more powerful units as they were not able to meet the later performance requirements.

There is an excellent book "Men & Machines by C H Wilson and W J Reader which is the fascinating story of D Napier & Son 1808 to 1958

My somewhat dog eared copy was printed in 1958.

It may be difficult getting a copy as its circulation was limited - I bought mine through the drawing office at English Electric which was affiliated with Napiers at the time.

Not only is it a detailed account, it is very interesting, a good read, I have read it several times over the last 50 years, and my copy is not for sale at any price.
Tom
Thomas01 (317)
843359 2009-12-27 20:45:00 Cicero. Even you can't be too old to learn something new. I think! :p Richard (739)
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