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1126875	2010-08-13 04:50:00	Well i know its not the HDD, windows recovery runs fine on this laptop yet not on my desktop. I will run some tests on memory tomorrow, i am unsure how to test my CPU or PSU. I think i have an old PSU laying around what i can try it with, CPU im clueless. what do you mean. the PC is the issue right? how have you tested the HDD? thought the PC had no display. only now and then? ditto how can you test the ram? does the PC work now and then?	Nomad (952)
1126876	2010-08-13 05:02:00	. I am from England, however i came to this forum because i heard it was one of the best support forums (which i agree with so far ;)) and the timezone suits my lifestyle . I thought about being a programmer, when I was over in London as it happens, however somebody told me I would lose my weekends in work . . . . . but I didnt know you lose your nights as well . . . . ? . LOL My money is on a zapped main board, as I havent heard of a PSU booting only powering up to a CL environment with onboard graphic, discrete GPU maybe, but then usually, the PC would shutdown ungracefully .	SolMiester (139)
1126877	2010-08-13 05:07:00	me doubt it is the psu too. unless you are suddenly overloading with devices which shouldn't be the case.	Nomad (952)
1126878	2010-08-13 05:12:00	Fixing it your self is possible, but it can also be costly as Nomad pointed out - Hence my suggestion to take it to someone to at least see where the problem is. What I would do in my workshop if presented with this -- 1st check that no pins are bent or damaged in the PCI-E slot (since a card was altered. Next disconnect the PSU, attach a known good one and see what happens. Failing that -- Strip out the components - lay on the bench, the motherboard with CPU/RAM/ HDD/ Optical drive and Power supply, attach to a good monitor, short out the header pins to boot it, see if it boots up. IF it does, then you know that something is shorting on the case and other components. IF it doesn't, then disassemble the parts on the bench, and on another workshop PC, plug in/ attach one component at a time, seeing if it works, sooner or later you will hit one (or more) components that wont work (maybe). IF every thing works and all that's left is the Motherboard,Then from spare parts (a good motherboard), reassemble it again on the bench, it should boot up. Assuming it does, reassemble it in the case with a new replacement part(s) and all should be fine. May need a reinstall, all depends. I'll service it for free + the cost of parts -- Only cost ya a return airfare to England and back :D ( Great Tui Ad) as I havent heard of a PSU booting only powering up to a CL environment with onboard graphic, I have, Last week, XP PC, basic unit, sometimes would boot ok other times gets to different stages of booting then stops -- changed the PSU and been good ever since. Original PSU was 2 1/2 years old. But does sound/ give indications of a zapped board. Although it may not be as well :)	wainuitech (129)
1126879	2010-08-13 16:19:00	Fixing it your self is possible, but it can also be costly as Nomad pointed out - Hence my suggestion to take it to someone to at least see where the problem is . What I would do in my workshop if presented with this -- 1st check that no pins are bent or damaged in the PCI-E slot (since a card was altered . Next disconnect the PSU, attach a known good one and see what happens . Failing that -- Strip out the components - lay on the bench, the motherboard with CPU/RAM/ HDD/ Optical drive and Power supply, attach to a good monitor, short out the header pins to boot it, see if it boots up . IF it does, then you know that something is shorting on the case and other components . IF it doesn't, then disassemble the parts on the bench, and on another workshop PC, plug in/ attach one component at a time, seeing if it works, sooner or later you will hit one (or more) components that wont work (maybe) . IF every thing works and all that's left is the Motherboard,Then from spare parts (a good motherboard), reassemble it again on the bench, it should boot up . Assuming it does, reassemble it in the case with a new replacement part(s) and all should be fine . May need a reinstall, all depends . I'll service it for free + the cost of parts -- Only cost ya a return airfare to England and back :D ( Great Tui Ad) I have, Last week, XP PC, basic unit, sometimes would boot ok other times gets to different stages of booting then stops -- changed the PSU and been good ever since . Original PSU was 2 1/2 years old . But does sound/ give indications of a zapped board . Although it may not be as well :) Thanks for the reply, i'll give all of that a test . I was planning on taking it all apart today, since i cant really do much with my DOS USB drive . The post was very informative and instructional, so i guess ill try this out first as it sounds mkost likely to help . basically if you wanna troubleshoot yourself, you really need parts yourself . point a) what happens if you buy part (1) and it doesn't fix it and you have to buy part (2) . . and then and then . . . regardless what i do now is that i think you have a laptop, get a USB thing that can read your PC's hard drive so you copy your "precious" data first . do you have any shops with a good return policy? you can use that if you like and then at the end buy and keep the part that was required . i am assuming you can do the technical stuff yourself . if not maybe send it to a pc tech . doesn't cost you anything . after data is backed up . take your cd rom and reinstall windows and if it does not work . . go thru and eliminate which hardware that may be causing the issue(s) . i try the ram next . then a video card? PS have you tried plugging your monitor into your laptop? just double checking . . . . got a bit loss with the prev posts . . . Yes, my monitor works fine on my other PC and on this laptop . Hell, i even plugged my sound, keyboard and mouse into it as i hate working on a laptop . Thanks for the reply everyone, ill give them all a go one by one and post the status .	Programmar (15930)
1126880	2010-08-13 16:58:00	Why cant i edit my posts? D: Anyway, checked the PSU, switched it around and nothing has changed. HDDs disconnected, nothing in besides optical drive, RAM and processor. I dont have any RAM which fits this motherboard, so that fails but i highly doubt its a memory problem. I have tried it with no optical drive but didnt make any difference. Going to try and remove my motherboard now and see if there is anything shorting or w.e.	Programmar (15930)
1126881	2010-08-13 17:36:00	Mobo is out, nothing shorting it underneath. I dont know how to get my fan and heatsink out though xD Its hurting my fingers just trying. But yeah, new motherboard perhaps?	Programmar (15930)
1126882	2010-08-13 21:49:00	i cannot say for sure . when the hdd was out the same issues right? re: the cpu and the fan . just unlatch the clips or lossen them and twist the fan it should pop when a bit of air gets underneath it dislodging the thermal paste .	Nomad (952)
1126883	2010-08-13 22:10:00	Highly doubt its the CPU, while its not impossible to be the fault, other components are more often to fail before the CPU does. The Board may look OK, you generally wont see a short problem, but assemble it on a bench with every thing else, sometimes weird things happen. Classic example a few weeks back a customers PC wouldn't boot at all, simply the fans started - nothing else. Dis-assembled it and put it back together on the bench and it worked perfectly. The problem was when in the case, the USB port used for the Mouse was shorting on the case somehow -- Bit of "Panel Beating" on the case :D and its going fine.	wainuitech (129)
1126884	2010-08-13 22:20:00	Sometimes the metal bits from the I/O panel can get stuck in the USB / NIC port on the back. It happened here the other day, when I put this in a new case (after I had installed everything :lol:). Pissed me off :devil I had to pull it to bits again, before I turned it back on. That would probably short something	Speedy Gonzales (78)
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