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1126865 2010-08-12 23:55:00 what i do personally is pull the hard drive out to another computer copy your impt stuff then use a recovery cd and nuke and replace. or use linux if you prefer that. use a working cd or a new one.

then maybe we can say it's hardware. warranty? back to shop.
Nomad (952)
1126866 2010-08-12 23:55:00 CL, it said starting ubuntu then stopped. Well, in thats what my ubuntu HDD did anyway. The live CD wouldnt load at all which makes me think that that is damaged. I did try and boot damn small linux from my flash drive and that let me into the splash, where it says "Press enter to boot" but went blank shortly after i pressed enter.

It seems to be with anything graphical, so i know it isnt my HDD's.

Oh just so you know, i have booted into FreeDOS and i am in it now. Im trying to access my C: drive, but i dont think you can access HDDs from a live cd/flash drive.

Sorry bud, but everything keeps coming back to a damaged main board or crippled PSU....perhaps the CPU, however TBH, I have yet to diagnose a faulty CPU....We have flashed the BIOS (did you load defaults after this process?), the system boots as far as loading a GUI, be it on either HDD, ubuntu or windows, you could only zap one o/s not 2 unless you damaged the HDD....
I think you need to cut another live CD, and test on the pc you are currently using to see if good, if this still doesnt work.......
SolMiester (139)
1126867 2010-08-13 01:13:00 99% its a hardware problem.

As others mentioned -- if the HDD is disconnected then a Live CD should boot fine, no virus or corrupted system files to stop it.


I dont see how my PSU can be faulty, it has worked without fail ever since i got the PC a few months ago That means nothing !! :groan:

All it takes is one power surge and it can be damaged.

I've seen people blow up PC's within an hour of receiving them new, simply by shorting a component or power surges.

A GOOD service person would test all the hardware and make sure its working as it should -- thats why you pay the $$.

It could be a fault on the board, Faulty PSU, a faulty Cable/SATA header, the PCI-E slot may have been damaged when you changed the card, something moved and is shorting on the case, the list goes on ------
wainuitech (129)
1126868 2010-08-13 01:34:00 I would say its infected with something like Alureon, which can infect classpnp.sys and atapi.sys. Have you got another desktop??

I highly doubt its a virus if i cant boot into GUI with the HDD out. Ill run some more tests tomorrow, if it doesnt work i guess ill have to get it serviced. Thanks for the suggestions everyone.
Programmar (15930)
1126869 2010-08-13 01:54:00 Would any of you guys suggest purchasing a new motherboard? I found one for about £50 english pound on ebay, probably cheaper than getting it serviced. Ideas? Programmar (15930)
1126870 2010-08-13 02:26:00 Would any of you guys suggest purchasing a new motherboard? I found one for about £50 english pound on ebay, probably cheaper than getting it serviced. Ideas? NO -- not until its actually 100% sure it is the Motherboard. If you went and purchased a new Board and still the problem exits then its a waste of money.

It may pay to take it someone who knows what to do and ask them to have look and see whats actually wrong -- Then replace what ever is broken.

The place you brought it from should be able to tell you as long as its not a name brand PC. Since its newish, a warranty "may" cover it, depending on whats wrong.
wainuitech (129)
1126871 2010-08-13 02:33:00 NO -- not until its actually 100% sure it is the Motherboard. If you went and purchased a new Board and still the problem exits then its a waste of money.

It may pay to take it someone who knows what to do and ask them to have look and see whats actually wrong -- Then replace what ever is broken.

The place you brought it from should be able to tell you as long as its not a name brand PC. Since its newish, a warranty "may" cover it, depending on whats wrong.

Well i know its not the HDD, windows recovery runs fine on this laptop yet not on my desktop. I will run some tests on memory tomorrow, i am unsure how to test my CPU or PSU. I think i have an old PSU laying around what i can try it with, CPU im clueless.
Programmar (15930)
1126872 2010-08-13 03:52:00 What make is the pc, do you have a model or main board details....? Are you in England? As suggested, it the pc is recently new, surely you have a warranty SolMiester (139)
1126873 2010-08-13 04:30:00 What make is the pc, do you have a model or main board details....? Are you in England? As suggested, it the pc is recently new, surely you have a warranty

The PC doesnt have a model, it is a custom created one ordered from eBay. I think i have warranty however i have lost the contact details to the company i bought it from. I am from England, however i came to this forum because i heard it was one of the best support forums (which i agree with so far ;)) and the timezone suits my lifestyle.

Here are some specs i copied from a site which sells my motherboard:

Product description ASRock G31M-GS R2.0 - motherboard - micro ATX - iG31
Product type Motherboard
Form factor Micro ATX
Dimensions (wxdxh) 24.4 cm x 18.3 cm
Chipset type Intel G31 Express / Intel ICH7
Multi-core support Dual-Core / Quad-core
Max bus speed 1333 MHz
Processor 0 ( 1 ) - LGA775 Socket
Compatible processors Pentium, Celeron, Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Extreme, Core 2 Quad
64-bit processors compatibility Built-in
Ram 0 MB (installed) / 8 GB (max)
Supported ram technology DDR2 SDRAM
Supported ram integrity check Non-ECC
Storage controller ATA-100, Serial ATA-300
Usb ports configuration 8 x USB
Storage ports configuration 1 x ATA, 4 x SATA
Graphics controller Intel GMA 3100 Dynamic Video Memory Technology 4.0
Audio output Sound card - 5.1 channel surround
Networking Network adapter - Realtek RTL8111DL - Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet

PC specs from memory:
500GB HDD
2GB DDR3 RAM
2.2GHz dual core processor
DVD drive

These are basic from memory, cant get a full spec because i cant run much from my machine. I dont mind paying a little, but ive spent a lot on a GFX card and dont want to spend a lot of money which might happen if i get it serviced. Like somebody said, not everyone knows what they are doing and can ruin it even more. Id happily buy a new mobo if that if the problem. I know how to replace them.
Programmar (15930)
1126874 2010-08-13 04:39:00 basically if you wanna troubleshoot yourself, you really need parts yourself. point a) what happens if you buy part (1) and it doesn't fix it and you have to buy part (2) .. and then and then ...

regardless what i do now is that i think you have a laptop, get a USB thing that can read your PC's hard drive so you copy your "precious" data first.

do you have any shops with a good return policy? you can use that if you like and then at the end buy and keep the part that was required.

i am assuming you can do the technical stuff yourself. if not maybe send it to a pc tech.


doesn't cost you anything. after data is backed up. take your cd rom and reinstall windows and if it does not work .. go thru and eliminate which hardware that may be causing the issue(s).

i try the ram next. then a video card?

PS have you tried plugging your monitor into your laptop? just double checking.... got a bit loss with the prev posts ...
Nomad (952)
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