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Thread ID: 106087	2009-12-26 03:00:00	Things were OK for a while but	Thomas01 (317)	PC World Chat

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843117	2009-12-27 00:18:00	+1 for Imation brand. If you keep the disks in their original plastic case, you don't have to write on the disks, just the insert in the case. Much better than using solvents on plastic.	johcar (6283)
843118	2009-12-27 01:13:00	Meh, Buy the ones with the printable labels already on them,and....wait for it....Use a pencil.	Metla (12)
843119	2009-12-27 08:13:00	Wow so many answers. Metla sounds a good idea. I admit I have never seen disks with the labels already on them. The pencil idea is also good until you want to erase it. I do have an electric eraser which would cause minimum surface damage but even so am a little doubtful. johcar I have always considered the plastic cases a thoroughly daft idea, and wasteful of space. I dump them, and use paper cases. Saves bags of space. Previous experience of having the notes carried on the paper cases seems a good way of doing it - but it don't work - the cases get mixed up and I don't want to go that way - once bitten !! plod whoopee agent 24 yes I have many times read that we should not use solvents. But I have been using them for years and never had any problems - until this subject problem. pctec Never tried this but I wonder about the centrifugal effects - perhaps the labels would stay on but I reckon vibrations would appear. I would hate to have labels come off in the writer. wainuitech I normally buy them in 15 - 20 lots. Depends on what is available. Like you I was suspicious of rewritable disks, as my experience with CDs rewritable was pretty pathetic. I eventually dumped all mine and stayed with non rewritable. But with DVDs I seem to be lucky - just a couple have been failures. Tomorrow I will try The Warehouse. Thanks from me in deep gratitude for all the suggestions comments etc yes even "plod" though I must admit I fail to understand his sense of humour. Guess I must be getting old picky and difficult to live with etc. Tom	Thomas01 (317)
843120	2009-12-27 08:42:00	Metla's Suggestion of a Pencil sounds good on printable disc's - you can get really soft pencils 9B (I think) is the softest (but dont take my word on that) and a soft rubber /eraser from the warehouse is 20 cents or something like that.	wainuitech (129)
843121	2009-12-27 20:27:00	Metla's Suggestion of a Pencil sounds good on printable disc's - you can get really soft pencils 9B (I think) is the softest (but dont take my word on that) and a soft rubber /eraser from the warehouse is 20 cents or something like that. I should be keen on using pencils after 50+ years working on drawing boards/machines etc but I wasn't happy. - in fact I did try it with the painted surface DVDs. I have dozens of different pencils rubbers etc left over from the old days but must admit that 6B is the softest I ever used. I still find 6B is great for occasional jobs especially sketching. The electric eraser is far superior to hand erasing and causes least damage to the surface of the medium in use, but all erasing tends to leave dust sometimes quite abrasive dust. The thought of this dust getting into my DVD writer frightens me. So I discounted the idea although I still have a few disk knocking around with their titles etc in 6B pencil. Getting off the subject somewhat, I came to NZ about 40 years ago and missed drafting on plastic film using plastic pencils, which we had been using at BAC for quite a long time. I also failed to see any use of linens to draw on which was our preferred medium before the plastic film. Sepias and ozalids were unknown here. Just for curiosity I would like to know if any of you had experience of these items in drawing offices in NZ. Tom	Thomas01 (317)
843122	2009-12-27 22:43:00	I wouldn't get too worried about dust in the DVD - plenty of that in the air anyway. Besides, a new DVD writer is only about $60 (assuming of course that you are doing your burning via a PC)....	johcar (6283)
843123	2009-12-28 20:42:00	Besides, a new DVD writer is only about $60 (assuming of course that you are doing your burning via a PC).... On pension $60 does seem too much to spend because of some dust etc. Also I now find lifting and dismantling my desktop is a major effort - the less I do such things the better. Your observation is quite relevant of course but not for me. Thanks Tom	Thomas01 (317)
843124	2009-12-28 20:56:00	I bet your all waiting with anticipation (especially Plod) to find out how I did at The Warehouse. Well success - they had DVD+RW in containers of 10 for $14.99 Not bad. Just glad they didn't charge $15 which would have been too expensive for me. They are by Transonic and have the plain chrome like surface I wanted. +RW also seem to have some features which make them better for me than -RW Completely happy? Not quite. A couple of design features amaze me. 1) Why is a paper cover needed over the disks. This hides the product especially the surface. If a cover is completely needed then at least a quarter of it should have been left out in order to see the product. I didn't really know for certain that the surface was normal until I opened the thing. Mind you instructions on the side had mentioned not attaching adhesive labels, do not use hard tipped writing implements (pencils?), and do use oil based felt tipped pens. Good on you Transonic for this. 2) But unfortunately although Transonic understand what is wanted they spoil their effort by filling three quarters of the disk with very large printed notes about the disk - all either unnecessary or could have been done much much smaller. With only a quarter of the disk left for the notes they realize people are going to put there, they also provide lines to write on. But so little space is left and the lines are so close together it is difficult to write even using my smallest pen. But we are nearly there. Tom	Thomas01 (317)
843125	2009-12-28 22:20:00	1) Why is a paper cover needed over the disks. This is generally used to protect the surface of the disc from sunlight - Sunlight does destroy CD/DVD's.	wainuitech (129)
843126	2009-12-29 00:07:00	This is generally used to protect the surface of the disc from sunlight - Sunlight does destroy CD/DVD's. Yep, often reckoned that myself. But really are these disks going to be exposed to sunlight? Most will be in shops devoid of just about any daylight! I also wonder about the effects of sunlight. Now I am not saying I have proved anything but some of my discarded CDs and DVDs I have used as bird scares in the garden. Some got left out there for ages just on the ground. I looked at them this morning - no "apparent" damage. I cannot check them because I deliberately scratched them myself when they went into their second life. But now I wonder - does the sun really cause them any harm?	Thomas01 (317)
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