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Thread ID: 106080	2009-12-25 05:21:00	Have you noticed . . .	Twelvevolts (5457)	PC World Chat

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843052	2009-12-28 08:51:00	Back in post 55 I said this:= "I think we agree that crime is a problem . What you have not said is how society should fix the problem in your view . So what is your solution? How can we make this country safer than it is now?" You have conveniently chosen not to reply . Can I assume you have no solution and it is easier to criticise others for their input than to offer a viable alternative? Despite what you think, the country isn't less safe than it used to be, see the Herald article link I posted above . It's you that is trying to change the system not me, the current system works reasonably well (every system can be improved of course), we are a punitive country and have the second highest imprisonment rate in the western world, and we put very little money into rehabilitation . I hold a qualification in Criminal Justice, Penal Policy and Sentencing from my days working in the Courts, I've at least studied what impacts on crime rates, fear of crime . and the reasons for crime . If you seriously want to know you can find out, but tougher sentencing will not in my opinion work to reduce the crime rate, it is more than likely going to make us a more violent society . I have to say I'm pleased not to be working in Justice system any more - life is much easier being an IT Manager .	Twelvevolts (5457)
843053	2009-12-28 09:12:00	Despite what you think, the country isn't less safe than it used to be, see the Herald article link I posted above. It's you that is trying to change the system not me, the current system works reasonably well (every system can be improved of course), we are a punitive country and have the second highest imprisonment rate in the western world, and we put very little money into rehabilitation. I hold a qualification in Criminal Justice, Penal Policy and Sentencing from my days working in the Courts, I've at least studied what impacts on crime rates, fear of crime. and the reasons for crime. If you seriously want to know you can find out, but tougher sentencing will not in my opinion work to reduce the crime rate, it is more than likely going to make us a more violent society. I have to say I'm pleased not to be working in Justice system any more - life is much easier being an IT Manager. The Herald article only covers murders and therefore does not cover other acts of violence does it? I now will go build a table from data accesible from NZ Stats data.	Sweep (90)
843054	2009-12-28 09:24:00	If crooks keep commiting crime then this National government is determined to incarate them. I think liberal judges and prosecutors have caused big problems in the past now when ever they sentence lightly there are howls of rage. I reckon they might be starting to take notice of public sentiment. I dont care if we have the second higest imprisioning rate in the western world if the crooks are off the streets good for me and my family	prefect (6291)
843055	2009-12-28 09:26:00	would you want to have the death penalty? Eliminate any chance of scums from ever hurting another person, families, and society as a whole. Plus, their death means less burden on taxpayers in the long run. It also acts a bit like natural selection for the good natured people. The bad people gets executed, the good people continue to live. And no, I'm not willing to give callous criminals and rapists any chance. The saying 'everybody deserves a second chance' doesn't apply to them. Did they give their victims a chance?	qazwsxokmijn (102)
843056	2009-12-28 18:13:00	New York murder rate is over three times the rate of here according to figures published on the net . Do you know WHY murders and mayhem are higher there? The Sullivan Act which prohibits citizens from owning a concealable firearm . The law abiding citizen, of course, won't keep a handgun - but the criminal does and they commit these crimes at will because they know the average person is NOT armed . I - of course - do not own any firearms, having given them up years ago when children first appeared at my dinner table - but isn't that little revelation interesting . (Not about children at my table - but the Sullivan Act) and it's an unfortunate creation of a target-class of people and a shooting-class of criminals?	SurferJoe46 (51)
843057	2009-12-28 19:47:00	But all Americans have guns. They're on TV, so it must be true....	Peterj116 (6762)
843058	2009-12-28 19:55:00	But all Americans have guns. They're on TV, so it must be true.... Then it must be true - TV never lies Truth be told: those of us who don't have guns have large gasoline sucking 4wd behemoth vehicles that burn the world's fuel supply and darken the skies creating a nuclear winter. It's six of one - half a dozen of the other.	SurferJoe46 (51)
843059	2009-12-28 20:07:00	Then it must be true - TV never lies Truth be told: those of us who don't have guns have large gasoline sucking 4wd behemoth vehicles that burn the world's fuel supply and darken the skies creating a nuclear winter. It's six of one - half a dozen of the other. Whoever invented the hummer needs a jolly good thrashing.	Cicero (40)
843060	2009-12-28 20:45:00	It's those lousy Italians! WIKI follows: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (the) United States Army concluded that the militarized civilian trucks in use no longer satisfied their requirements . In 1977, Lamborghini developed the Cheetah model in attempt to meet the Army contract specifications . In 1979, the Army drafted final specifications for a High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle, or HMMWV . In July of that year, AM General (a subsidiary of American Motors Corporation) began preliminary design work, and less than a year later, the first prototype, the M998, was in testing . In June 1981, the Army awarded AM General a contract for development of several more prototype vehicles to be delivered to the U . S . government for another series of tests, and the company was later awarded the initial production contract for 55,000 HMMWVs to be delivered in 1985 . HMMWVs first saw combat in Operation Just Cause, the US invasion of Panama in 1989 . More WIKI: History The Cheetah was Lamborghini's first attempt at an off-road vehicle . It was built on contract from Mobility Technology International, which in turn was contracted by the US military to design and build a new all-terrain vehicle . The basis of the design came from MTI, and was largely a copy of FMC's XR311 prototype developed for the military in 1970 . This resulted in legal action from FMC against MTI and Lamborghini in 1977 when the Cheetah was presented at the Geneva Auto Show . The XR311 and Cheetah could be considered progenitors of the current Humvee . An interesting link too ( . lambocars . com/lm/cheetah . htm" target="_blank">www . lambocars . com)	SurferJoe46 (51)
843061	2009-12-28 20:58:00	Seems rather a large target none the less. A Texan must have had something to do with it somewhere along the line.	Cicero (40)
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