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| Thread ID: 106315 | 2010-01-04 10:48:00 | why I am not going to USA... | robsonde (120) | PC World Chat |
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| 845645 | 2010-01-09 02:57:00 | I wouldn't go to the USA and neither would I visit Auckland. | Sweep (90) | ||
| 845646 | 2010-01-09 03:39:00 | I will be going through Toke next Wednesday. | prefect (6291) | ||
| 845647 | 2010-01-09 04:23:00 | I will be going through Toke next Wednesday. Medal in the post.! |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 845648 | 2010-01-09 05:38:00 | There appears to be some in this forum, whose hatred for the USA, the British, indeed may I suggest the Western Alliance of NATO, and especially the Israelis, that blinds them to a few simple facts: We in Australia and New Zealand have the freedoms we enjoy courtesy of the USA and the Western Alliance, The American people have picked up most of the horrendous financial burden of guaranteeing that the lifestyle and freedoms we personally enjoy have continued. This is not saying that the USA and the Western Alliance have not made mistakes - they have made some very costly mistakes - possibly one of the greatest was not taking out Sadam Hussein in 1991. If the Soviet block had prevailed instead of NATO, then Europe would be a very different place to what it is today. Simmillarly, if the Communists had overun SE Asia in the late 40s and 50s, I doubt that NEW Zealand would have necessarily remained pleasant peaceful and relatively prosperous place to live. We in Western societies need to be very much aware, that if Al quida and Militant Islam prevail, then within a couple of generations the freedoms and lifestyle that so many take for granted will probably become a distant memory. It won't effect me, but I wish for a better life for my grand children not a worse one. Some is in touch with reality after all America lost 2 fourtunes, Britian lost an empire and was bankrupted by bailing out france and europe in: give france back the alsac and lorriene part 1 1914 1918 and part 2 1939 1945 The french repaid them buy forming the common markett/eu with germany and locking britain out of it when it needed to be in it in the sixties. |
angry (15305) | ||
| 845649 | 2010-01-09 09:45:00 | There appears to be some in this forum, whose hatred for the USA, the British, indeed may I suggest the Western Alliance of NATO, and especially the Israelis, that blinds them to a few simple facts: We in Australia and New Zealand have the freedoms we enjoy courtesy of the USA and the Western Alliance, The American people have picked up most of the horrendous financial burden of guaranteeing that the lifestyle and freedoms we personally enjoy have continued. This is not saying that the USA and the Western Alliance have not made mistakes - they have made some very costly mistakes - possibly one of the greatest was not taking out Sadam Hussein in 1991. If the Soviet block had prevailed instead of NATO, then Europe would be a very different place to what it is today. Simmillarly, if the Communists had overun SE Asia in the late 40s and 50s, I doubt that NEW Zealand would have necessarily remained pleasant peaceful and relatively prosperous place to live. We in Western societies need to be very much aware, that if Al quida and Militant Islam prevail, then within a couple of generations the freedoms and lifestyle that so many take for granted will probably become a distant memory. It won't effect me, but I wish for a better life for my grand children not a worse one. Reality check. If it wasn't for Britain and her allies Aus/NZ/Canada etc the US would be speaking German right now. The Russian effort was HUGE and our history books barely recognise we were on the same side. If Britain had of fallen early leaving one front, Russia would have gone and guess where Hitler was off to soon after! The US entered WW2 half way through after profiting Hugely from the war do you even know that?? , don't be to grateful for them "saving out asses" as its easy to win a race if you start it half way through. lol Al-Qaeda have nothing to do with the loss of freedom, there is a war going on for world resources, religion is a weapon on BOTH sides to control the weak. Religion is not the root cause. OMG Australians are as brain washed as yanks! |
Battleneter2 (9361) | ||
| 845650 | 2010-01-09 10:12:00 | Reality check. If it wasn't for Britain and her allies Aus/NZ/Canada etc the US would be speaking German right now. The Russian effort was HUGE and our history books barely recognise we were on the same side. If Britain had of fallen early leaving one front, Russia would have gone and guess where Hitler was off to soon after! The US entered WW2 half way through after profiting Hugely from the war do you even know that?? , don't be to grateful for them "saving out asses" as its easy to win a race if you start it half way through. lol Al-Qaeda have nothing to do with the loss of freedom, there is a war going on for world resources, religion is a weapon on BOTH sides to control the weak. Religion is not the root cause. OMG Australians are as brain washed as yanks! you seem to be jioning the cold war and vietnam, with ww2 in the same statment. Then throwing in resource wars, 1 of which iraq is not. A failed attempt at creating armgeddon, which 911 was. Then the other Militant Muslim dream of a major Muslim Christian confruntation. you must lay out what wish to say more clearly. The last 2 topics are too hot for most governments to discuss openly. Please tread very carfully there, loose comments about bearded maniacs are a safe run along the edge. serious debate about these other two must be done with a cool head, and an open mind. :cool: |
angry (15305) | ||
| 845651 | 2010-01-09 14:54:00 | Fools learn by their mistakes, smart men learn by others mistakes! Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 845652 | 2010-01-09 19:17:00 | Fools learn by their mistakes, smart men learn by others mistakes! Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Good old Napoleon. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 845653 | 2010-01-09 19:40:00 | Rule one dont invade russia | prefect (6291) | ||
| 845654 | 2010-01-09 23:04:00 | you seem to be jioning the cold war and vietnam, with ww2 in the same statment . Then throwing in resource wars, 1 of which iraq is not . A failed attempt at creating armgeddon, which 911 was . Then the other Militant Muslim dream of a major Muslim Christian confruntation . you must lay out what wish to say more clearly . The last 2 topics are too hot for most governments to discuss openly . Please tread very carfully there, loose comments about bearded maniacs are a safe run along the edge . serious debate about these other two must be done with a cool head, and an open mind . :cool: Its a established fact the American CIA trained Militant Muslim in the early 80 to fight the "Evil Russians lol" which was largely what we would call now terrorist training . The American CIA has been involved in cold blooded terrorism for many decades, there is a ton of websites and books detailing there deeds but of course most in the West don't want to know (use google if you interested) . Its ok to back "Militant Muslim" as long as they are doing your dirty work . As soon as the "Militant Muslim" turn on you they become "Evil Terrorist" that must be stopped as they are threatening our freedom lol . The first step to stopping these conflicts is understanding them, not buying into the propaganda on either side . |
Battleneter2 (9361) | ||
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