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| Thread ID: 106171 | 2009-12-29 10:39:00 | Car - general | Nomad (952) | PC World Chat |
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| 844126 | 2009-12-31 22:01:00 | Agree with Greg on this one. Perfect, when people drive past you on a 2 or 3 lane road do you call 555 as well? Because surely they must be speeding/impatient/idiotic/dangerous. Or better yet, maybe they're in a hurry to rape some girl. Grow up. |
--Wolf-- (128) | ||
| 844127 | 2010-01-01 01:38:00 | Also with greg, prefect that made no sense. putting the law aside, there is nothing more dangerous about driving at any speed, within reason. If someone passes you when your doing 100k why do you care? As long as its a safe passing move then theres not harm done, certainly not enough to justify pulling over and making a call just out of spite or whatever it is that keeps you going | hueybot3000 (3646) | ||
| 844128 | 2010-01-01 03:16:00 | Thanks guys for a reasonable perspective. As mentioned... Raping someone has no comparison whatsoever to using a bit of throttle to overtake a car to be in front... often with the sole purpose of not being held down by the slower drivers so that when confronting a very slow truck or other driver. Here's a quote I read today - my emphasis in bold... AA spokesman Simon Lambourne said although the toll had dropped slightly in recent years, his organisation was concerned at a rise in serious injuries since 2000. Although technological improvements in cars were helping to reduce the toll, a persistently high injury rate pointed to a need for better roads. Other obvious areas for improvement included significant changes to the graduated licence system to protect young drivers "grossly over-represented in crashes" and a better understanding of why people crashed. "Crashes don't just happen when people disobey the road rules," Mr Lambourne said. "There is good evidence that driver distraction, drowsiness and poor handling are far more common causes of crashes." I regard the Automobile Association a better authority than any individual person who is a maybe an okay, or scared driver, to cope with speeds that a car is reasonably capable of. Think of some European speed limits which allow far higher speeds than 100 silly KM's p/h. It has been established that... yeah speed kills you quicker or injures more dramaticaly than low speeds. Except... look at the stats... far more injuries occur when driving near home than highway distances. Also, and here's a point... look at how fast people drive at high speeds when they're driving while no-one else is around. That's the safest way of driving. Stastistics show that most vehicle accidents occur within 15 KM's of their starting place, usually their home. Finally - some people just want to stay in their comfort zone. And in return some of us drivers will drive as fast as possible to be safely back on the correct side of the road after overtaking the Citroen 2CV's. |
Greg (193) | ||
| 844129 | 2010-01-01 04:06:00 | Well, I had a look for the specs . The Camry that we have is difficult to locate, may be too many of them . Taking a new 2009/2010 2 . 0 Camry provides 117kW / 217 torque . Interesting popular Ford Focus and Toyota Corollas provide just 100-105kW / 175 torque . Toyota Prius is 74kW and 140 torque . The 2 . 4 V6 Audi has 121kW / 230 torque . A relation in North America where cars are 30% cheaper than NZ . She got a new 2008 (at the time), Audi A4 2 . 0 Turbo Quattro in silver and a sunroof, haha - 162kW and unknown torque . The Fords and Holdens are more affordable . Maybe NZ's fascination of powerful cars and a bargain . Reliable? Heard from a mechanic they are not as reliable as Japanese . Ie . , buying a used car and keeping it for a good 5-10 yrs . |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 844130 | 2010-01-01 04:54:00 | I have a theory that the road rules are all wrong. 1. It should be compulsory to drive as fast as possible. As fast as your car will go. By doing this you will arrive home earlier, and thus leave more clear road for other fast traffic. We have then, in one fell swoop solved the problem of too much traffic on the roads, because everyone will be home sooner. (Except Prefect of course, who will be parked up frantically trying to dial *555) 2. It should be compulsory for all drivers to be drunk on Friday and Saturday nights. Any sober drivers should be breath tested and arrested for low blood alcohol. As we all know, we drive better after a few (or many, in the case of Cicero) and will arrive safely at our destinations because we will all have those equally lightning reflexes we had as half pissed twenty-year-olds. Any incompetent drivers like Prefect will be automatically eliminated from the system. So let's all change. It will be for the better I assure you. :cool::cool: |
Richard (739) | ||
| 844131 | 2010-01-01 04:57:00 | Not sure what your getting at Nomad. You can buy 4 door Japanese cars in NZ much more powerful than those Audi's you listed Honda Accord V6 202kw 340 Nm torque Mazda 3 MPS 190Kw **380Nm** torque Nissan Maxima V6 185 Kw 326Nm torque Just to name a few main stream type cars, sure a lot of Japanese cars are under powered for economy, but you don't need to buy Ford or Holden for decent performance. |
Battleneter2 (9361) | ||
| 844132 | 2010-01-01 05:25:00 | Re: economy for the camry . When we filled up I used the trip manager to record the km's driven and when we filled up again I noted the litres required . Camry does 8 . 8L/100km . How's that? The Audi does 8 . 1L/100km then again the Camry did have 4 people (not 1) and more personal belongings . I have a Japanese car . My Subaru Legacy RS30 has a 3L H6 engine and uses about 12 . 2L/100km around the city (which is 99 . 9% of my driving) and 9L/100km when traveling long distances . Apparently it has around 290 Nm max torque, which is more than the Audi you mentioned which has around 230 Nm max (according to Wikipedia) . :) |
maccrazy (6741) | ||
| 844133 | 2010-01-01 05:27:00 | I was just curious after the long drive we had with the Camry. So I checked the specs up. There was a modern V6 3L Audi at 250kW I think with 330 Nm. :D What occurred to me was Ford XR8 etc .. do provide a lot of power somewhat less than an Audi R8 ;) at a much cheaper price. Ie., a V8 at a 4 cylinder Audi price. Who knows we may get another economical car to replace our 1992 Mazda Familia 323 4 dr compact. Rust related at the rear seatbelt chassis and at the boot hinge. Wof may not past in June or it might who knows.. It was advised Dec may not pass in last June. I been looking at a cheaper lesser responsive car for long drives instead of using the Audi. Least the masses use under powered cars. Ford Territory look like a neat family vehicle, not easy on the gas thou. Re: economy the 1.8L Corolla I think or 2.0 stated 7L for 100km. The Camry and Audi does 8L from our calculations. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 844134 | 2010-01-01 06:54:00 | I have a theory that the road rules are all wrong. 1. It should be compulsory to drive as fast as possible. As fast as your car will go. By doing this you will arrive home earlier, and thus leave more clear road for other fast traffic. We have then, in one fell swoop solved the problem of too much traffic on the roads, because everyone will be home sooner. (Except Prefect of course, who will be parked up frantically trying to dial *555) 2. It should be compulsory for all drivers to be drunk on Friday and Saturday nights. Any sober drivers should be breath tested and arrested for low blood alcohol. As we all know, we drive better after a few (or many, in the case of Cicero) and will arrive safely at our destinations because we will all have those equally lightning reflexes we had as half pissed twenty-year-olds. Any incompetent drivers like Prefect will be automatically eliminated from the system. So let's all change. It will be for the better I assure you. :cool::cool: This post = win. When do these new road rules start? |
--Wolf-- (128) | ||
| 844135 | 2010-01-01 07:17:00 | I have a Japanese car. My Subaru Legacy RS30 has a 3L H6 engine and uses about 12.2L/100km around the city (which is 99.9% of my driving) and 9L/100km when traveling long distances. Apparently it has around 290 Nm max torque, which is more than the Audi you mentioned which has around 230 Nm max (according to Wikipedia). :) Wow! A Subaru Legacy that ONLY gets 17/24 (Town/Freeway) Miles Per Gallon! Good grief! Are you stating realized mileage or advertised values? That's pretty poor by US real-road testing standards. My neighbor has one that gets 25/30 Miles Per Gallon! That's the 243 HP / 3.0 L engine too! Even the Subaru CVT gets 23/31! How can that be - when it's common knowledge that the US is the biggest wasters of petroleum in the world! Typically our highway speeds are legally at or more than 120 KPH too. It is not uncommon to run 160 KPH on the interstate roads/freeways. I've been passed by CHiPs and Arizona Highway Patrol when I was well over 160 KPH and they ignore me. Just trying to not be run over by big rigs and earthmovers, you have to run at those speeds. When I was younger and bulletproof (and more indestructible) I ran my Kawasaki at long multi-mile bursts of over 290 KPH from Texas to California more than a dozen times. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
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