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Thread ID: 106315 2010-01-04 10:48:00 why I am not going to USA... robsonde (120) PC World Chat
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845615 2010-01-05 05:18:00 Rag head is pretty offencive especially to Sikhs.

With a post like that,I suggest you change you name to 13volts,you are certainly in his league.
Cicero (40)
845616 2010-01-05 06:38:00 Bronwyn and I are traveling this year, we have been planning it for years.
I had been pushing to include the USA as I would have enjoyed the Smithsonian
and other museums, however, we are now going to skip the place, just can't be bothered with the hassles.

Ah - don't be put off. The Smithsonian and the other national buildings in the Mall are compulsory visits. Take at least two days. Honestly, do it.




Don't see what everyones problem is though, didn't they say they were only really making it a PITA for people from (list of countries, mostly middle eastern countries)

Actually you are correct about that - most nationalities are safe enough.

However what I am astonished about is the anguished navel-gazing and apportioning of blame which is still going on right now in the US political and security agencies. Its a media festival. They missed the guy. It happens. How many tens of thousands enter the US every day? Can't check them all.
Winston001 (3612)
845617 2010-01-06 12:57:00 Be careful,using bearded one,might upset some git on here.
And never use term towel head.

of course you MUST NOT refer to towels.

I have a beard.:rolleyes:
angry (15305)
845618 2010-01-06 13:08:00 Well i guess the yanks have just had Veitnam part 2, they lost another.

Did they loose the first one which was of course only 4 different wars rapped up in one?

They acheived their objective, and won every battle in which they engaged.

They withdrew in stages, because continued support for the NEW Corrupt Saigon administration, became untenable.

It is not nessecarry to achieve a resounding victory to "Acheive" you objective.
angry (15305)
845619 2010-01-06 13:41:00 A probable outcome indeed,but a tad premature I would have thought!

Iraq: objective, Removal of Sadam and his gang of thugs .

Acheived .

At Issue: Failure to have at hand "The Marshall Plan For Iraq"

Resulting in the mess there today, and the only partial recovery from the power vacume that everyone new would exist after Sadams removal, and cause major strife for years .

Which is one of the 3 major reasons they stopped near the border in 91 .

George and co didnt really care about the vacume issue any more after 911 .

Afganistan .

Objective: Remove Taleban from power .

Acheived .

At Issue:

The dregs of the ban and queda with assistance from elements in Pakastani intellegence are running an insurgencey in both afganistan and pakistan with the objective of creating:

A nuclear armed, Militant, Autocratic, Fudementalist Muslim state .

With the intention of "Eradicateing" the (Percived)Hindu, Zionist, Christian, alliance .

Problem: These people have 2000 plus years experience operating as bandits and insurgents in one of the best reigons in the world for that type of activity .

They wrote the origonal book on Gerilla warfare/insurgency .

Ongoing, still in Favour of the NATO, US, ANZUS alliance . :)
angry (15305)
845620 2010-01-06 17:32:00 I thought the object of invading Iraq was to locate and destroy the weapons of mass destruction??

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Also this comment regarding Afghanistan from this page... www.britishbattles.com

"The First Afghan War provided the clear lesson to the British authorities that while it may be relatively straightforward to invade Afghanistan it is wholly impracticable to occupy the country or attempt to impose a government not welcomed by the inhabitants. The only result will be failure and great expense in treasure and lives".

Lessons not yet learned...this was said in 1842

Ken
kenj (9738)
845621 2010-01-06 18:56:00 Too true ken and the Russians got an ass whipping as well. prefect (6291)
845622 2010-01-06 19:05:00 The WMD were an excuse. The reason was oil. Speedy Gonzales (78)
845623 2010-01-06 19:39:00 The yanks were a disgrace invading Iraq. Its just another Vietnam they will never learn.
Once the clowns leave the place it will erupt into civil war.
They had a right to raid Afghanistan after 911 attack, kill some Al Qada and Taleban then leave.
Can use airpower to keep taking out any residual terrorists.
The Afghanis have for centuries been quite happy fighting amongst themselves when an invader comes in they unite and take on the invader. The pomgolians got a huge dicking there and no one has learnt from history.
There are two places history says in a loud voice don't invade Afghanistan and the other is Russia.
prefect (6291)
845624 2010-01-07 19:09:00 Even for burger flippers? prefect (6291)
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