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Thread ID: 106467 2010-01-10 01:33:00 Ady Gil / Earthrace beetle (243) PC World Chat
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847440 2010-01-10 20:59:00 Disgusting.

Roddy,

I once had respect for you - not any longer :( :(
Zippity (58)
847441 2010-01-10 22:30:00 What is wrong with whaling?

If it is done sustainably and done humanely, then I have no problem with it.
Couldn't you make an acception for whales?
prefect (6291)
847442 2010-01-11 01:05:00 Ha shot Roddy.

Dont boats normally have reverse?? Of course he drove in front of the ship.
Gobe1 (6290)
847443 2010-01-11 01:11:00 Far from humane actually....it's quite difficult to humanely kill huge marine animals like whales. The exploding harpoons won't really kill in one hit. Sometimes a whale can escape, after sustaining mortal damage, only to die a slow and painful death, maybe even killed by sharks.

Aside from that, whales are entirely different from say, cows and lambs. The latter have been bred for millenniums for their meat, hides, etc. And while they may congregate for safety and warmth, apart from maternal duties they're not too social of animals. On the other hand, whales are extremely social; their groups are devoted to each other, a young calve cannot survive without its mother and they depend on each other to locate/round up food. So much of their lives include their family, so killing a whale is much like killing a member of a human family.

Oh, and if I remember correctly a couple of species of whales on their menu are endangered. Or have little data to base their numbers on. Will have to check up on those.

And no, it's not anthropomorphism. The word itself I find offensive when applied to intelligent animals such as whales, wolves, dogs, cats and many other animals who posses as much, or even more, intelligence and awareness than us humans.

Are pigs included? And do you shed a tear when a predator in the wild takes down it's din dins by attacking it's neck and making it suffer for a while?


Couldn't you make an acception for whales?

I really should have emphasised the IF part in my reply :xmouth:
bob_doe_nz (92)
847444 2010-01-11 01:55:00 And now the idiot Bill Watson wants www.nzherald.co.nz

I think that the harpooners are shooting in the wrong direction :)
Zippity (58)
847445 2010-01-11 02:07:00 Are pigs included? And do you shed a tear when a predator in the wild takes down it's din dins by attacking it's neck and making it suffer for a while?:xmouth:
Pigs...yeah, farm animals. I don't have a problem if they're slaughtered quickly with least suffering as possible.

And regarding predators - it's natural. I have a naturalistic view in this world and what nature needs nature takes. I doubt I'll like seeing a pack of wolves slowly killing a buffalo but it's nature.....you can't change it and should you try it it can be pretty ugly.
qazwsxokmijn (102)
847446 2010-01-11 02:09:00 I have no respect for anyone that thinks whaling is ok.
Those guys down there fighting for the whales lives and putting their own lives on the line are heroes.
In a few years people will be amazed they hunted whales in years before.
Bugger the Japs they killed thousands of our people a few years ago and they are still killing now.
Its got to stop.
prefect (6291)
847447 2010-01-11 02:22:00 A quote from Whale Oil:

"On the issue of Sea Shepherd. They are pirates, plain and simple, no different from the Somali pirates that has many nations warships hunting. They are armed, they fired projectiles at the Japanese ships and shone laser lights in peoples faces and tried to disable ships in the most unforgiving of waters. Those are acts of piracy and the Japanese vessels are within their rights to protect themselves. They should be treated as common pirates on the open seas. As you can see from the Wikipedia article on piracy Sea Shepherd engages in almost all of the traits that makes a pirate. The Japanese should start deploying the following methods to deter piracy:

While the non-wartime 20th century tradition has been for merchant vessels not to be armed, the U.S. Government has recently changed the rules so that it is now “best practice” for vessels to embark a team of armed private security guards. In addition, the crew themselves can be given a weapons training, and warning shots, less-lethal ammunition, … can be fired legally in international waters and/or when sailing under Israeli or Russian flag. Finally, similar to weapons training, remote weapon systems can be implemented to a vessel.

Other measures vessels can take to protect themselves against piracy are implementing a high wall and vessel boarding protection systems (eg. hot water wall, electricity-charged water wall, automated fire monitor, slippery foam, …)."
Zippity (58)
847448 2010-01-11 02:26:00 Prefect - you are letting raw emotions dictate your comments :( Zippity (58)
847449 2010-01-11 02:37:00 The japs are the pirates down there, they are evil buggers and they need another thrashing from us. We had to give the germans two hidings before they gave up doing stupid things looks looks like the japs are slow learners.
I am with roddy
Disgusting
prefect (6291)
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