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| Thread ID: 106732 | 2010-01-21 04:46:00 | 3 Strikes: Will it reduce crime? | lance4k (4644) | PC World Chat |
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| 850443 | 2010-01-23 21:07:00 | Paul Cov x2 I'd volunteer to be one of the Prison Managers under your system. And play them piped music - Mary Poppins And don't let them out till they can recite some good poetry, can ball room dance, have good english, have a trade, have good manners. |
Digby (677) | ||
| 850444 | 2010-01-23 22:01:00 | Has anyone actually read the proposed "three strikes" legislation? It may not do what you expect anyway according to this:- tvnz.co.nz |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 850445 | 2010-01-23 22:16:00 | Has anyone actually read the proposed "three strikes" legislation? It may not do what you expect anyway according to this:- tvnz.co.nz Obviously you can't lock people up for crimes they haven't yet committed :rolleyes:, Though no doubt all those mentioned in that article had been in the court system their entire lives. There was another article floating about showing a number of killings that would have been stopped if the legislation was in place. However, the legislation is far too soft and no doubt it will be corrupted by our judges. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 850446 | 2010-01-23 22:24:00 | The part that gets me is that legislation appears to be drafted but the New Zealand public don't get to see it. So all that happens is we get speculation about what the law may do ( or not do ) as the case may be as I pointed out in post 3. A Copernic search for three strikes legislation only brings up the amended copyright Section 92A. So where is the actual draft law we are talking about here? |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 850447 | 2010-01-23 22:33:00 | Obviously you can't lock people up for crimes they haven't yet committed :rolleyes:, Though no doubt all those mentioned in that article had been in the court system their entire lives. There was another article floating about showing a number of killings that would have been stopped if the legislation was in place. However, the legislation is far too soft and no doubt it will be corrupted by our judges. might I suggest minority report styled justice. |
plod (107) | ||
| 850448 | 2010-01-23 22:50:00 | The part that gets me is that legislation appears to be drafted but the New Zealand public don't get to see it. So all that happens is we get speculation about what the law may do ( or not do ) as the case may be as I pointed out in post 3. A Copernic search for three strikes legislation only brings up the amended copyright Section 92A. So where is the actual draft law we are talking about here? An excellent point. And even after it gets put into law we won't know how it works until the court system spits out a few cases. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 850449 | 2010-01-23 22:51:00 | might I suggest minority report styled justice. We could get the weather forecasters to have a crack at it. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 850450 | 2010-01-23 22:53:00 | An excellent point. And even after it gets put into law we won't know how it works until the court system spits out a few cases. You can bet that the defence lawyers will be milking it. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 850451 | 2010-01-23 23:52:00 | The part that gets me is that legislation appears to be drafted but the New Zealand public don't get to see it. So all that happens is we get speculation about what the law may do ( or not do ) as the case may be as I pointed out in post 3. A Copernic search for three strikes legislation only brings up the amended copyright Section 92A. So where is the actual draft law we are talking about here? Spot on...this is entirely the fault of the crappy NZ newspaper reporting. No detail, or at least no full details of any legislation is ever published in the paper I read (Dom Post). Martynz makes snide remarks (from time to time) about the UK Telegraph or 'Torygraph' as he calls it. They did when I was there, have pages of fine print legislation reporting, so the public was well informed if they cared to read. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 850452 | 2010-01-24 00:13:00 | We are winning, law and order is an election issue. Every little bit of anti crook legislation is winning the fight. The Sensible Sentencing Trust is getting plenty of press every time a idiot judge goes light on the crims. National and labor will be tripping over each other to prove they are the crime fighting party. The anti punishment camp of liberal lawyers and people like 12VDC and Deano are backing a losing horse. Liberalism was a nice try just like art deco it is dieing out. I think the police do their best I was impressed when they beat the **** (resisting arrest) out of two maoris who harassed my family a year ago. |
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