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| Thread ID: 112135 | 2010-08-25 11:18:00 | ATM Network Controller and Audio problem. | overbyte (15954) | Press F1 |
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| 1131576 | 2010-08-26 10:59:00 | The audio is probably onboard / on the mobo (if you look at the back of the case, there's sockets (either 3 or 6 of them) . Those are the outputs / inputs for an onboard soundcard . PCI slots are white, and look like this . wikipedia . org/wiki/Conventional_PCI" target="_blank">en . wikipedia . org the pic on the right at the top You can put another soundcard in, but not if its onboard (you can't remove onboard audio) No you don't need a serial # to get drivers . All you need is the brand / model of the mobo . Or the system (if its something like Dell / HP) . The model of the motherboard maybe etched on the mobo somewhere (it maybe between the PCI slots) See if PCwizard tells you what the mobo is . cpuid . com/softwares/pc-wizard . html" target="_blank">www . cpuid . com Thanks, I got the PC Wizard but I already ran AIDA32 © 1995-2004 Tamas Miklos (program is now obsolete/unsupported) Here is info from that report . Motherboard: CPU Type Intel Pentium 4HT, 2800 MHz (3 . 5 x 800) Motherboard Name IBM Motherboard Chipset Intel Springdale-G i865G System Memory 502 MB (PC2700 DDR SDRAM) BIOS Type Phoenix (04/07/04) Communication Port Communications Port (COM1) Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1) I directed my friend by phone to get me (copy and paste and email) the info from device manager . Info previously copied is correct - and add two lines . Device Instance ID PCI\VEN_1392&DEV_07D1&SUBSYS_07D11392&REV_10\4&3A321F38&0&50F0 Hardware Id's PCI\VEN_1392&DEV_07D1&SUBSYS_07D11392&REV_10 PCI\VEN_1392&DEV_07D1&SUBSYS_07D11392 PCI\VEN_1392&DEV_07D1&CC_020300 PCI\VEN_1392&DEV_07D1&CC_0203 Ok , so now I understand PCI and cards . We already looked - there was only one such card in a slot - I remember it had something written on it such as DSL or something and we assumed it was a card that allowed the Telus modem to operate (the Intel Pro/1000 listed below?) - didn't look any more than that at it - and not a card for the ATM network controller . PCI / PnP Network Device Description Type ATM Network Controller [NoDB] PCI Intel PRO/1000 MT Network Connection PCI some more Audio Information - Multimedia: Audio Adapter Intel 82801EB ICH5 - AC'97 Audio Controller AC'97 Audio Controller: Audio Controller Type Intel 82801EB(M) ICH5 Codec Name Analog Devices AD1981B Codec ID 41445374h SoundMAX Digital Audio ] [ Sound, video and game controllers / SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio ] Device Properties: Driver Description SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Driver Date 4/9/2004 Driver Version 5 . 12 . 1 . 4060 Driver Provider Analog Devices INF File oem3 . inf OK so is that enough information to find the latest audio driver for this audio? Thanks If driver doesn't work then we'll go to finding/buying an audio card . |
overbyte (15954) | ||
| 1131577 | 2010-08-26 11:18:00 | Is this www.intel.com whats in the PCI slot??? Maybe that site <- installs both drivers? At least we know its an IBM mobo, but it doesn't help if it doesn't show a model Have a read of this www.techsupportforum.com It uses the Intel Springdale-G i865G chipset too. These may work support.gateway.com ver,%20version%205.12.01.3571&uid=203836415 for the sound that is |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 1131578 | 2010-08-28 08:51:00 | Hello Again: OK I've been to my friend's place and ran the PC wizard (better than AIDA), opened the case to look see and I checked the BIOS version to get the num directly . Add to this before I went I made a mistake and sent him a wrong audio driver link and he lost the driver for SoundMAX which did seem to be OK (the new driver is not correct) . One before according to AIDA that I lost ---> 5 . 12 . 1 . 4060 One that I sent him that did not work ----> SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio 5 . 12 . 02 . 5280 (installed but not correct - yellow exclamation mark) Motherboard ID IBM General Information Product : 8189PPU Version : Unspecified Serial Number : KCHR0R0 Unique ID : 2672DEA7-6454345F-9115F6BA-3DDA0E99 SKU : Unspecified Family : Unspecified Start mode : Power Switch OEM Information OEM #1 : BB:2A38A On-Board Device Information Device : AD1981 (Sound) Embedded Controller : No (I took some numbers directly from the MOBO if needed - it was made in China on MOBO says REV 2:4) Looked at the PCI card (Discovered my friend was putting his telephone through the tel jacks (in and out - not sure if it using the DSL card? but at that location . ) in the computer - old habit form dial up I guess - I removed those and hooked his telephone directly to the wall and not the computer) . Strangely the card is: ADSL PCI NIC DW-8000P logo ---> C + (backward R joined with U) + S Made in Korea 07URECSPEED 8000P Daewoo and some other nums + serial num which I have . Found two drivers on net (doing general search) for 5 . 12 . 1 . 4060 SoundMAX but got message neither one matches the hardware . SO I have to narrow the search somehow using the MOBO num? The Report shows that one network connector is the Medialight System Summary Mainboard IBM IBM Chipset Intel i865PE Processor Intel Pentium 4 @ 2800MHz Physical Memory 512MB (1 x 512 DDR-SDRAM ) Video Card Intel(R) 82865G Graphics Controller Hard Disk Seagate ST340014A (40GB) Hard Disk Western Digital WD800BB-00FJA0 (80GB) DVD-Rom Drive HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-H23N Monitor Type Philips Philips 170S - 17 inches Network Card Medialight Network Card Intel 82541EI Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5 . 01 . 2600 Service Pack 3 (32-bit) DirectX Version 9 . 0c (November 2006) Multimedia Multimedia Device Audio IBM 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller General Information Manufacturer : Intel Codec Information AC'97 support : Yes S/PDIF support : Yes Manufacturer Codec : Analog Devices Model : AD1981B I don't understand the realtionship beteen this and the Sondmax . I didn't see any info for the Soundmax but then again I lost the driver . From Network Adaptor Information #1 Description : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Desktop Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport Type : Ethernet DHCP : Yes . . . Speed : 100 000 000 bps MTU : 1500 bytes Connected : Yes BIOS General Information Manufacturer : IBM Version : 2AKT38AUS Date : 04/07/2004 (mm/dd/yyyy) Address : 512KB SMBios Version : Unspecified DMI Version : 2 . f Characteristics Flashable : Yes Socketed : No ---> Ok I take it that divers cannot simply be replaced as files (or can they?) but must be installed? So is it possible to back up installation of a driver when installing a new one? How? So now first at least to re-install the olld Soundmax Audio dirver - now with MOBO num where can I search? (I failed trying a 5 . 12 . 1 . 4060 driver from Dell - just a blind try) . A little tired now to do any more goggle searches - I was there almost 3 hours . I still have to read the log you posted . I'll pick this up again to-morrow Thanks |
overbyte (15954) | ||
| 1131579 | 2010-08-28 09:03:00 | Go to device manager highlight the audio go into its properties and roll back the driver (if it was working before). Ok, it maybe a Thinkcentre (according to Google, when you type in 8189PPU). This maybe the site www-307.ibm.com 2FproductPageLandingPage.vm&sitestyle=lenovo&brandind=11&familyind=121123&machineind=121217&modelind=168236&partnumberind=0&subcategoryind=0&doctypeind=9&doccategoryind=0&operatingsystemind=121210&validate=true This is the specs by the looks of it Intel Pentium 4 2.8GHz (512KB), 800MHz FSB, 512MB, 40GB 7200RPM IDE HDD, PCI Tower (4x5), Intel 865G, 48x24x48x16x CD-RW/DVD combo, Intel Gigabit Ethernet, Windows XP Professional |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 1131580 | 2010-09-20 23:55:00 | Go to device manager highlight the audio go into its properties and roll back the driver (if it was working before) . Ok, it maybe a Thinkcentre (according to Google, when you type in 8189PPU) . This maybe the site . ibm . com/pc/support/site . wss/product . do?template=/product . do?template=%2Fproductpage%2Flandingpages%" target="_blank">www-307 . ibm . com 2FproductPageLandingPage . vm&sitestyle=lenovo&brandind=11&familyind=121123&machineind=121217&modelind=168236&partnumberind=0&subcategoryind=0&doctypeind=9&doccategoryind=0&operatingsystemind=121210&validate=true This is the specs by the looks of it Intel Pentium 4 2 . 8GHz (512KB), 800MHz FSB, 512MB, 40GB 7200RPM IDE HDD, PCI Tower (4x5), Intel 865G, 48x24x48x16x CD-RW/DVD combo, Intel Gigabit Ethernet, Windows XP Professional Thanks - There are three software problems: 1 . SoundMAX Driver - fixed (actually restored - I got the SoundMAX driver restored and updated) . I used the link above and found a driver on the third page it and installed - it worked - is SoundMAX driver - a newer version than what was in there before . I had already tried "Rollback driver" and it did not work - error message "driver not backed up" . Previous was ---> 5 . 12 . 1 . 4060 Current is ---> (higher (have to get nu on return to friend) So this just restores previous status - still no audio . 2 . Fix the "ATM network Card" error It looks like the PCI card is indeed the unnecessary Network card (second one not used) . Next step is to find driver for Daewoo DW8000P - which I found one - will try to install on my next visit shorty to be made Daewoo PCI card: . daewoointernational . ca/other/DW-8000P . shtml" target="_blank">www . daewoointernational . ca This means that the real operating high speed modem must be onboard as there are no other PCI cards That would be some version of the "Intel® PRO/1000 MT Server Adapter" which you thought might be in the slot and is not as it is probably on the mobo . That is listed in the report as: Device : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Desktop Connection or is this actually another name for Daewoo (visually confirmed) and the actual modem is some standard unlisted thing on the Mobo? Question: Need to verify that it is possible the modem high speed is actually on the mobo . Or am I completely messed up and the computer is in fact using the Daewoo? Solving this will probably not fix audio but is something can be solved and put away . ( My own computer has some audio device on my pci soft92 modem so I can't rule out this as problem source completely) . I will try to install this driver for the Daewoo (ATM problem?): . opendrivers . com/driver/265023/daytek-dw-8000p-daewoo-adsl-modem-driver-1 . 1 . 3 . 59-win-xp-free-download . html" target="_blank">www . opendrivers . com 3 . Realtek AC'97 audio : I noticed there was missing software in my friend's' machine namely no sound effect manager . However he has win XP professional and I have Win XP home edition . so - is this the problem? Can I install this on his machine? I will try to re-install/update the Realtek drivers and look for Realtek package with sound effect manager included . I need to go and recheck his AC'97 drivers and look for software to re-install on the net . Question: How do I search for this driver/software what search arguments? Us the mobo num? or that is not needed? Use the model num? Model : AD1981B Thanks ---> Lastly if the Mobo sound is physically destroyed - is there any test physical or software to determine this? |
overbyte (15954) | ||
| 1131581 | 2010-09-21 01:01:00 | The AC'97 Audio is: IBM 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (I wanted to edit it in. There no edit button on my last post!!!?) |
overbyte (15954) | ||
| 1131582 | 2010-09-21 01:09:00 | Forget AIDA32, it's far too out of date. Get the new version, Everest Ultimate edition (30 day trial) from www.lavalys.com IBM 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller just refers to the audio controller in the southbridge, not the actual audio codec chip itself which will be the "AD1981B" as you posted earlier. That is made by Analog Devices and they do not post generic drivers (unlike everyone else) so you must use the drivers supplied by your motherboard or PC manufacturer. It seems your PC is made by IBM, what is the model number of the PC itself? (This should be on the PC itself on a sticker, or may show up in Everest) |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1131583 | 2010-09-21 01:17:00 | Umm if your mates soundcard is the same as yours You can install the same drivers on his (you'll need the install file) You can use this AD1981B. Altho a better idea. To find out WHAT driver you need, go to the device in device manager, dbl click on it (If its showing a ?), then go to details. Change it to hardware ids. Copy (press ctrl-c) then ctrl-v in a browser (in google). Hopefully it'll tell you what it belongs to Or (hopefully) double click on the device / driver tab / update driver. Select the windowsupdate option (only once). Sometimes this works sometimes it doesnt. I have to do this with the modem here on the other PC, since Intel no longer have the driver on their site. |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 1131584 | 2010-09-21 02:14:00 | Umm if your mates soundcard is the same as yours You can install the same drivers on his (you'll need the install file) You can use this AD1981B . Altho a better idea . To find out WHAT driver you need, go to the device in device manager, dbl click on it (If its showing a ?), then go to details . Change it to hardware ids . Copy (press ctrl-c) then ctrl-v in a browser (in google) . Hopefully it'll tell you what it belongs to Or (hopefully) double click on the device / driver tab / update driver . Select the windowsupdate option (only once) . Sometimes this works sometimes it doesn't . I have to do this with the modem here on the other PC, since Intel no longer have the driver on their site . My system has nothing to do with my friend's system . I only notice that I have interactive software called "sound effect manager" in Windows Control panel that comes form AC'97 and he doesn't and he has XP professional and I have XP Home edition . It just means to me that perhaps I have to reinstall/upgrade his AC'97 software as I previously explained . Windows update option was tried in the very beginning . This is in regard to the ATM network controller . In regard to the AC'97 in fact I did not see an entry on the device control manager I thought that was strange and I am going back to check that . If I can find something on the device manager I'll do all the hoops . AC'97 is listed in the PC Wizard report as I have detailed . Does anybody have any answers for question number 2 about the PCI device? Is it possible the high speed modem is in fact on the mobo . This is very important for me to understand . Also is it true that all drivers must be installed IE they cannot just be copied as files? @agent24 As I mentioned previously in this thread , I have updated to use PC Wizard . I don't use trials or commercial stuff, thanks anyway . Though it's possible a friend might have a copy of whatever . (Update yeah I got one . ) . . . . . . The mobo number is previously listed but I don't know if that is what you mean . And this machine is cobbled as previously mentioned so no stickers and no numbers listed inside or outside . So I think 8189ppu is model M50 - A number which I may need . ie: . satech . com/ibm-memory-ibm-thinkcentre-memory-ibm-thinkcentre-m50-8189-memory-ibm-thinkcentre-m50-8189-ppu-memor . html" target="_blank">www . satech . com So is this AD1981B a Realtek codec? Some drivers seem to be listed by a codec type . Searches for Realtek so far fruitless or very confusing . Still not sure what to search on . I opened too many windows so I lost my right click function which sometimes happens with Win XP - got to close out all my windows and restart IE . |
overbyte (15954) | ||
| 1131585 | 2010-09-21 02:55:00 | I doubt the modem is onboard. I've never seen an onboard modem. Its probably PCI. If noone uses it remove it | Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
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