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| Thread ID: 106732 | 2010-01-21 04:46:00 | 3 Strikes: Will it reduce crime? | lance4k (4644) | PC World Chat |
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| 850403 | 2010-01-21 07:33:00 | The left have left. And the right are always right! :D DeanF (or whatever his name was) is gone, so is that 12v guy (by the looks of things), so who else is left? And there I was thinking how nice we were to them. Terry can be both a do gooder and a decent chap,seems to depend on his mood. Mostly the latter I must say. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 850404 | 2010-01-21 07:44:00 | I'm still here ! Didn't realize you were a dogooder :p Problem is, the career of Hangman is no longer a subject that is taught, it was very respectable at one time. :) If you can do crash tests with dummies... I think we can work that one out. I remember one fatuous do-gooder argument went along the lines that if you execute someone then you can't then find out what causes people to murder because the evidence has been destroyed. Well I guess that's alright, as long as they are all locked somewhere and suffering and not wasting OUR money, they can live. But then again isn't prison supposed to be a place worse than death? A place of eternal suffering, so terrifying and horrendous that once you've seen it, you'd give your right arm and leg to never go back? If that's what it's like, sure. You can live. Or maybe some things are best not known? Shrinks cause more problems than they solve anyway. |
Cato (6936) | ||
| 850405 | 2010-01-21 08:25:00 | The left have left. And the right are always right! :D DeanF (or whatever his name was) is gone, so is that 12v guy (by the looks of things), so who else is left? I'm certainly not a leftie and I have certainly not left. The legislation will achieve nothing other than to possibly make the country more dangerous. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 850406 | 2010-01-21 08:32:00 | If I kill thrice I will go to prison for life, if I rape thrice I will go to prison for life? If you kill once you should go down for life. Life = 99 years not the bleeding hearts 10 years in NZ |
paulw (1826) | ||
| 850407 | 2010-01-21 08:43:00 | I'm certainly not a leftie and I have certainly not left. The legislation will achieve nothing other than to possibly make the country more dangerous. If this legislation was in place 10 years ago numerous innocent people would still be alive, rather then brutally murdered by filth, You disgust and revolt me, You would live in fear of their reactions to punishment? **** them, they rape and kill, and they are not interested in behaving in any manner but sheer violence no matter how soft fools like you want to be, when they get given a break, They are just given another opportunity to wreck violence on people. Three acts of violence deserves a bullet in the head. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 850408 | 2010-01-21 08:46:00 | One argument put forward by those against capital punishment is that the innocent may be convicted and given the drop. In NZ we do seem to have more than our fair share of cases that have been largely concocted on the flimsiest of evidence, or contrived evidence, but which have been sufficient to convince juries. However there are incontrovertible murderers like William Bell, Graham Burton, Jan Molenaar. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 850409 | 2010-01-21 08:56:00 | I don't believe the two issue are related in that manner, If the main consideration is that the wrong people maybe locked up then we would be criminal to lock anyone up at all. If anything I'd make teh prosection/cops liable for any mistakes, If they got it werong then can change places with the person who was locked up. They can have his cell, He/her can have all their stuff,House,wife,car,dog.... Anyway, I think its too weak. -First violent offense-Maximum penalty, No power for the judges to go soft -Violent offenses by youth, Straight into the adult court, Maximum penalty -Minor crimes, Third offense, Maxim sentence for that charge, and for every single charge they ere acquire during their lifetime. -Drink driving-Maximum available sentence for each charge, Third offense, Never allowed to drive again (after Jail term) |
Metla (12) | ||
| 850410 | 2010-01-21 08:58:00 | One argument put forward by those against capital punishment is that the innocent may be convicted and given the drop. In NZ we do seem to have more than our fair share of cases that have been largely concocted on the flimsiest of evidence, or contrived evidence, but which have been sufficient to convince juries. However there are incontrovertible murderers like William Bell, Graham Burton, Jan Molenaar. Those three you mention are guilty beyond any doubt, reasonable or otherwise and I would not mind them leaving this world. I am not for capital punishment as a matter of course though as I believe mistakes have been made in the past. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 850411 | 2010-01-21 09:08:00 | -Drink driving-Maximum available sentence for each charge, Third offense, Never allowed to drive again (after Jail term) Problem is, how do you police it? |
bob_doe_nz (92) | ||
| 850412 | 2010-01-21 09:35:00 | Problem is, how do you police it? Much the same way we do now, we all know alcoholics don't give a damn and the worst of the worst will still drive no matter what, but after their third offense they would be banned for life and if caught straight to jail within the hour. |
Metla (12) | ||
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