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Thread ID: 106859	2010-01-25 23:49:00	Epic FAIL !!!	wainuitech (129)	PC World Chat

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852002	2010-02-03 09:28:00	The Wildlist While there are various certifying agencies putting stamps of approval on various products, many of these focus on what is known as WildList (ItW) testing. Briefly, the WildList is comprised of contributions from at least two participants around the world who submit reports monthly. These reports stay on the list until a specified period of time has elapsed with no further reports or the original reporters request the virus be removed. Because the WildList is published monthly, the virus testing performed based on these lists may or may not accurately reflect threats currently circulating. From here antivirus.about.com I think your method is superior.	KarameaDave (15222)
852003	2010-02-03 22:37:00	Thanks Sweep-- its real rocket science the way I do scans. :lol: Take an infected drive, I have a Master Drive (www.imagef1.net.nz) as well as a backup Image of the drive - clone it multi times, that way each drive should be identical. Drop in a fresh image/ install of W7 -- 5-6 Minutes in time (Used to use XP) on a workshop PC so its fresh and completely clean, install anti-virus of choice, AVG, Norton, Nod what ever. Turn Off the PC, attach one infected cloned drive to the PC, start it up and scan the drive = Results. Then repeat the whole procedure for another AV. Anyone can do it all you need is a base Eg: clones of an infected drive, and a PC you can install the AV on. Edited: the only thing I cant do is test if an AV will stop an infection in the first place. But working in "real Life" events, the damage is already done for what ever reason by the time people need to look at repairs. With the lab tests I think they take a clean drive, then infect it and test the AV. IF they do it that way, how can they be sure two or more drives are identical. I would like to know the EXACT procedure they use. Maybe its top secret :p Great work Wainui So you scan the slaved drive using chosen antivirus Is it too hard to try to boot from the infected drive? and then try to install said AV and update then scan?	Gobe1 (6290)
852004	2010-02-03 22:56:00	I sold a PC in Oct 2008. She bought NOD32 around then too. Then a week ago she rings me to say the firewall was causing problems, she couldn't uninstall it as it wouldn't and her daughters ipod was stuffed up and would not rest. I arrange to go up - this is in the country. I turn up and she isn't there, no answer, walk right round, back door open, knock, no-one. Go to leave a note and daughter emerges from bed. Check PC, uninstall firewall from Add/Remove without any hassle. Notice NOD32 has never been activated, updated or used since Oct 2008. Neither has any spyware. 30 seconds of establishing this in Spybot showed 34 infections. PC utterly stuffed with malware and although quite high-specced, now running like treacle. Update antispywares and start scans, leave instructions fro daughter - who understood all this perfectly. Leave notes re NOD32 etc. Give daughter some instructions on resetting ipod (even though I do not fix ipods), ask her to get her mum to ring me and leave. No call. Eventually I send a bill for time, travel and diagnosis, detail requirements for AV etc and the need for her to contact me. I ring her eventually and am told she did not like what I told her daughter, she does not agree with my diagnose of problems and will never ring me again and hangs up on me. I ring back and husband asks why I have. I mention the need for payment of my time spent, whether she agrees with me or not, whether she takes my advice or not, he says not paying, what are you going to do about it then? I say if he continues to ignore it I can send it to debt collection and he tells me to do so and hangs up. So what do you do? Can't make them have it cleaned I guess.	pctek (84)
852005	2010-02-03 23:02:00	Some people are just plain stupid like that, and they never listen. You can't do anything about that. Oh well, hope you get your money from them eventually... I suppose you could laugh at them for having viruses, and being too stupid to do anything about it.	Agent_24 (57)
852006	2010-02-03 23:14:00	Send it off to baycorp or whoever Idiots are everywhere. Had one the other day. PC was a nightmare. Low specced Compaq Desktop Vista Basic 512 MB ram:groan: Had, had Nortons:eek: then AVG Then Avast over the time they had it. Never had a Windows update in over 2 years Mbam found and cleaned 278 infections:badpc: By then the guy was irate Tried to blame me! Then started yelling at wife & kids I decided he was out of control and left. Wouldn't be surprised if the bugger was on P or something? Didn't get paid, just wrote it off and put them on my blacklist.:crying:mad:	KarameaDave (15222)
852007	2010-02-03 23:16:00	I ring her eventually and am told she did not like what I told her daughter, she does not agree with my diagnose of problems and will never ring me again and hangs up on me. So, don't keep us in suspense, exactly what did you tell her daughter? Apart from that, send her the bill anyway and make it clear that all costs of recovery will be added to the account. Strictly speaking you need to have advised the customer of this policy before they engage you to do the work, but it may be enough to get you paid. You saw the house so you'll know whether they are the type to worry about their financial reputation. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
852008	2010-02-03 23:21:00	My debt collection technique a little different. I just get them back some other way (you wouldn't want to know) police do not care its just called a civil matter it works both ways in collecting debt contrary to popular belief.. I have had spouses /partners/parents/kids of debtors begging me to stop action and racing around with handfulls of cash. The lady who does my books say I have the highest rate of bad debt collection she has ever heard of and she is in her 60s. Dont let them get away with it	prefect (6291)
852009	2010-02-04 00:19:00	My debt collection technique a little different. I just get them back some other way (you wouldn't want to know) I do want to know. Billy T - What did I say to her daughter? Don't remember word for word. Where's your mum? >Don't know You have a problem with an ipod? SHow her various fixes printed out, ask if she can follow it, she says yes, tried one or two things, tell her to try these one by one and if not, then send it to Apple. After preliminary check of PC - tell her her mum has never had the AV working and its not protected, ask if the AS have been kept up to date - yes. I look, nope. Tell her no they haven't, I had told her mum this was importnat, explain a few bits about what various malware can do, tell her it's importnat to do this regularly, explain what needs to be done, suggest she do this as she understands. Ask for paper and write notes and tell her to make sure her mum reads it and rings me later. Asks if she is ok with what I've said and then leave. I updated all As, cleaned startup, did a HJT cleanup. What I didn't do was sort the AV as i didin't have the serial for it, didn't remove it as she had bought it, did stress the need for it to be done. So most likely it still has viruses.	pctek (84)
852010	2010-02-04 00:58:00	Great work Wainui So you scan the slaved drive using chosen antivirus Is it too hard to try to boot from the infected drive? and then try to install said AV and update then scan? Sometimes like this case the drive is completely unbootable, it has the virtu virus, which infects just about any exe file, even in safe mode. as soon as you try to install anything it kills it. Just scanning another fresh clone now with Gdata -- so far its looking like Nod32 still out performs it --- as they say --Stay tuned ;)	wainuitech (129)
852011	2010-02-04 01:54:00	I do want to know. Heh, so do I...	Agent_24 (57)
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