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Thread ID: 106859	2010-01-25 23:49:00	Epic FAIL !!!	wainuitech (129)	PC World Chat

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851992	2010-01-27 18:54:00	Well noone hates AVG. It just sucks as an AV program.It should be burnt, along with Mcafee, Zonealarm, and anything with Nortons / Symantec on itWell said -- Its not that people hate these programs, its quite simply often when ever there are problems the above mentioned programs are on the PC's. Yesterday - had to fix a persons PC, their email wouldn't send or receive, they had spent a lot of time on the phone trying to sort it out with their ISP - in the end it was their AV causing the blockage even though it was set to allow the email.	wainuitech (129)
851993	2010-02-03 07:43:00	Following on to this thread-- Just done some more testing on a Infected drive - the original was cloned, then Had NOD32 run through the clone as a slave. Located and removed 3241 (www.imagef1.net.nz) Infections. Re cloned the drive Then On fresh install of W7 installed a trial Norton 2010. Attached the infected Cloned drive and scanned it -- The results. They weren't kidding (www.imagef1.net.nz) :lol: or more like :confused::confused: WTF ?? Done a scan, result - Confusion Part 1 (www.imagef1.net.nz) Huh ?? Expanded out the Detailed results (www.imagef1.net.nz) Hmmmm as you can see lots more of the same infection but mulit times -- If you expand out all teh details, and count the actual infections ( as Nod32 did) it comes to 1293 - yes I counted them. Now - Totally removed Norton, rebooted, install nod32 and updated it and reattached the previously infected drive that Norton was meant to have cleaned. - Ran Nod32 through it Not a promising start for Norton (www.imagef1.net.nz) - then after Nod32 finished Infections nod deleted (www.imagef1.net.nz) - Norton missed them. Have a look also at the number of files Norton Scanned compared to Nod32 - and Nod had less to work with as Norton will have removed some of them. Norton Was set to scan as deep as it would allow in the settings. Conclusion - while Norton did catch a fair amount - Nod did a better job, AND cleaned out infection Norton Should have gotten. Norton is getting better, but still a long way to go to be Good. Next AV to try - PCworlds new #1 Gdata. Cloning infected drive again now.	wainuitech (129)
851994	2010-02-03 07:52:00	Wacko...I really enjoy these tests you do wainuitech. Real world test material and, of course your impartial commentaries.;) Keep up the good work.:thumbs:	KarameaDave (15222)
851995	2010-02-03 07:57:00	Wacko...I really enjoy these tests you do wainuitech. Real world test material and, of course your impartial commentaries.;) Keep up the good work.:thumbs: Ta muchly :D I'll be the first to admit - if an antivirus, no matter which one it is shows improvement or is better than Nod I will say so. I call it as I see it. Waiting for the mags to call and say shut up :lol:	wainuitech (129)
851996	2010-02-03 08:04:00	Waiting for the mags to call and say shut up :lol: They could offer you a job as a freelance AV tester:D	KarameaDave (15222)
851997	2010-02-03 08:20:00	Damn. I don't get infected drives. Seriously I have to say good work and keep it up. :thanks	Sweep (90)
851998	2010-02-03 08:21:00	Following on to this thread-- Just done some more testing on a Infected drive - the original was cloned, then Had NOD32 run through the clone as a slave. Located and removed 3241 (www.imagef1.net.nz) Infections. Re cloned the drive Then On fresh install of W7 installed a trial Norton 2010. Attached the infected Cloned drive and scanned it -- The results. They weren't kidding (www.imagef1.net.nz) :lol: or more like :confused::confused: WTF ?? Done a scan, result - Confusion Part 1 (www.imagef1.net.nz) Huh ?? Expanded out the Detailed results (www.imagef1.net.nz) Hmmmm as you can see lots more of the same infection but mulit times -- If you expand out all teh details, and count the actual infections ( as Nod32 did) it comes to 1293 - yes I counted them. Now - Totally removed Norton, rebooted, install nod32 and updated it and reattached the previously infected drive that Norton was meant to have cleaned. - Ran Nod32 through it Not a promising start for Norton (www.imagef1.net.nz) - then after Nod32 finished Infections nod deleted (www.imagef1.net.nz) - Norton missed them. Have a look also at the number of files Norton Scanned compared to Nod32 - and Nod had less to work with as Norton will have removed some of them. Norton Was set to scan as deep as it would allow in the settings. Conclusion - while Norton did catch a fair amount - Nod did a better job, AND cleaned out infection Norton Should have gotten. Norton is getting better, but still a long way to go to be Good. Next AV to try - PCworlds new #1 Gdata. Cloning infected drive again now. Golly good show	prefect (6291)
851999	2010-02-03 08:23:00	They could offer you a job as a freelance AV tester:D Then watch as he gets sued by anyone else other than Eset	bob_doe_nz (92)
852000	2010-02-03 08:39:00	Then watch as he gets sued by anyone else other than Eset A defence against libel or slander is the truth for some strange reason. I have no reason to doubt the results published here by Wainuitech.	Sweep (90)
852001	2010-02-03 08:55:00	A defence against libel or slander is the truth for some strange reason. I have no reason to doubt the results published here by Wainuitech. Thanks Sweep-- its real rocket science the way I do scans. :lol: Take an infected drive, I have a Master Drive (www.imagef1.net.nz) as well as a backup Image of the drive - clone it multi times, that way each drive should be identical. Drop in a fresh image/ install of W7 -- 5-6 Minutes in time (Used to use XP) on a workshop PC so its fresh and completely clean, install anti-virus of choice, AVG, Norton, Nod what ever. Turn Off the PC, attach one infected cloned drive to the PC, start it up and scan the drive = Results. Then repeat the whole procedure for another AV. Anyone can do it all you need is a base Eg: clones of an infected drive, and a PC you can install the AV on. Edited: the only thing I cant do is test if an AV will stop an infection in the first place. But working in "real Life" events, the damage is already done for what ever reason by the time people need to look at repairs. With the lab tests I think they take a clean drive, then infect it and test the AV. IF they do it that way, how can they be sure two or more drives are identical. I would like to know the EXACT procedure they use. Maybe its top secret :p	wainuitech (129)
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