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| Thread ID: 107031 | 2010-02-01 12:08:00 | Assisted suicide or not. | Sweep (90) | PC World Chat |
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| 854395 | 2010-02-01 22:42:00 | Alas, the team members reviving you will have been qualified with stray credits in NCEA (after 500 years of back sliding). True. Perhaps I'll go back to assisted suicide then. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 854396 | 2010-02-02 19:02:00 | I am in favour. No problem with minefields in Switzerland and Holland. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 854397 | 2010-02-03 02:57:00 | I disagree, I dont see the logic. Society attempts to save peoples lives when they are young(suicide=bad) yet wants to help them die once they have paid their taxes(suicide=good). Ie I fail to see the difference between terminally ill people and depressed people who are not terminally ill. Why kill one and not kill the other? We are all terminally ill,just some faster than others. This doesnt look like 'dignity', it appears to be a functional aspect of people paying taxes through their working life and the government coffers have been filled. |
pkm (13527) | ||
| 854398 | 2010-02-03 03:18:00 | I wonder how far Cryogenics have got. Going by some of the postings on this forum, I'd say that there are a few of them posting here :clap:clap |
Zippity (58) | ||
| 854399 | 2010-02-03 03:20:00 | Then how can we tolerate the euthanasia of animals who are injured or old? Why can't we just let them die naturally like us? |
bob_doe_nz (92) | ||
| 854400 | 2010-02-03 03:33:00 | To pkm. Attempted suicide at one time used to be an offence in New Zealand. Very often it is just an attention seeking issue but how do you know? I am not sure whether it still is under current New Zealand law. Perhaps we should give all such people the death penalty? Please note also that assisted suicide is a different kettle of fish in so far as if you can't do it yourself ( as in not physically capable of acquiring the means or applying the method ) then another party assists. "Dignity" means not having to call on others when you have soiled the bed etc. I'm almost certain that quite a number of so called single vehicle accidents are, in fact, attempted suicides for that matter. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 854401 | 2010-02-03 08:33:00 | To pkm. Attempted suicide at one time used to be an offence in New Zealand. Very often it is just an attention seeking issue but how do you know? I am not sure whether it still is under current New Zealand law. Perhaps we should give all such people the death penalty? Please note also that assisted suicide is a different kettle of fish in so far as if you can't do it yourself ( as in not physically capable of acquiring the means or applying the method ) then another party assists. "Dignity" means not having to call on others when you have soiled the bed etc. I'm almost certain that quite a number of so called single vehicle accidents are, in fact, attempted suicides for that matter. I beleive that assisting someone is still a offence in NZ. Having watched a family member die a slow and very painful death even with pain killer medication which by then was next to useless, she begged to be given a little extra morphine so she wouldn't wake up but the nurses and doctors said it was all in the mind and she wasn't allowed to talk like that. Opinions and times have changed over the years of course from then. In regards to vehicle accidents, you would be correct in assuming that line of thought, it is just not published to avoid copy cat *accidents*. |
PinoyKiw (9675) | ||
| 854402 | 2010-02-03 09:22:00 | I beleive that assisting someone is still a offence in NZ. Having watched a family member die a slow and very painful death even with pain killer medication which by then was next to useless, she begged to be given a little extra morphine so she wouldn't wake up but the nurses and doctors said it was all in the mind and she wasn't allowed to talk like that. Opinions and times have changed over the years of course from then. In regards to vehicle accidents, you would be correct in assuming that line of thought, it is just not published to avoid copy cat *accidents*. Assisting suicide is still an offence in NZ as you correctly point out. Attempted suicide is another matter of course because if physically capable and given the means then why was it an "attempt" and why did it fail? I married a girl when I was 24 and she was 19. It was not until after I married her that I found out she had attempted suicide at age 15 and later before I met her. She said when I asked about that "I want to die young and beautiful". She did not get to be 21 so she was young and I had to identify the body. Breathing in enough coal gas turns your face blue sort of BTW. We did have a child together and my daughter was adopted by my sister. Later I had to watch my second wife die after some 12 years together. After that I watched my Mother die in a hospital after a stroke from which she was never concious. That one took 10 days three years ago. My Sister called me to tell me that Mum had a stroke and I can tell people here that it was her worst nightmare and she would not have wanted to be revived and be a vegetable as such. But anyway enough blurb from me. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 854403 | 2010-02-04 03:39:00 | Should you get one of the less user-friendly terminal complaints, you may find that assisted suicide is not quite as evil as you once thought. | R2x1 (4628) | ||
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