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| Thread ID: 106946 | 2010-01-29 00:12:00 | Heat Pump subsidy | Nomad (952) | PC World Chat |
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| 853262 | 2010-01-29 20:02:00 | Putting pink bats in the ceiling, is a job most able homeowners could manage themselves. All you need is a ladder and a big knife. 1 bail would cost around $100 and cover around 10 square metres. Suggest you price up at your local hardware store. I would think most homes would be in the 100 to 200 square meter range. You can do the math. Bats underfloor is similar, but tricker to fit. "Bats" are most often found in the attic.... However, Pink Batts can be very tricky to fit underfloor if the floor is a concrete slab.... :D |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 853263 | 2010-01-29 21:33:00 | IMO it comes down to how long you plan on staying in the house; the Total Cost of Ownership is based on the payback you get in reduced powerbills from the initial outlay. If you're going to be there for the next 10 years, then it's certainly worth doing. And Expol is probably the easiest underfloor insulation to fit as it doesn't need to be fastened, just pushed up between the floor joists (provided it's not a concrete floor as johcar says! :D) |
nofam (9009) | ||
| 853264 | 2010-01-29 22:49:00 | www.underfloor.co.nz http://www.expol.co.nz/ :) |
Trev (427) | ||
| 853265 | 2010-01-30 00:05:00 | I would say that if you are not going to insulate, don't get a heat pump! You would just be wasting money! Ken +1 You might as well piss the money up against a wall. This last winter I went through sealing as many draughts as possible and it made a difference of about two degrees. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 853266 | 2010-01-30 02:35:00 | Tell that to the folks which one is a pensioner ... insulating is not cheap. At least the heat pump is more efficient than standard oil fin heaters. We have 2 going in the winter months and a one in each bedroom. The floor dunno. There is a trap door that is accesible but only half the house cos the newer section was added in by the previous owner. So that is like a split floor now. From a economist point of view, if one installs batts and a heat pump or one of the other, that requires 5yrs to offset the investment made right? |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 853267 | 2010-01-30 02:46:00 | Hey, I used to go to school wearing shorts with a hidden white color polyprop under the school uniform. Come home and I have a jumper and a fleece jacket and socks :D Or more recent winters a merino turtle neck tighter fit and then a larger turtle neck and the fleece. When we had the low water campaigns - use less power. I've sat in front of my computer, lights turned off, with gloves and a wolly hat while breathing out white air, time to shower and then jumpt straight into a goose duvet, have breakfast and then it was school with the free heaters. Having been to Duny as a student for a good 6-7yrs, in old tall villa houses you get more used to it.. but now you kinda lose that effect. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 853268 | 2010-01-30 03:06:00 | While you're paying for the heat pumps, you might also consider solar power for your water....... or not. www.stuff.co.nz |
Scouse (83) | ||
| 853269 | 2010-01-30 03:19:00 | A former boss of mine said solar was uneconomical, and that when you got the power you had to store them. She was saying a little windturbine would be better. Most NZ houses don't have insulation. If you are buying or renting a newer one they may have it but you pay more. I've never lived in a insulated house, nor in Dunedin for those years. Sure, we heard of pink batts, but ripping walls out was just too expensive and a project to administer. There are ceiling and floor batts, I have read that one may save $400 a year but that may require 7yrs to breakeven. But then again the little house I grew up in had a concrete floor with no access to underfloor and no attic. 5 inches on top of the ceiling was maybe the roof. The roof was flat - it wasn't triangle. Then when you get to windows, replacing all them to double glazing is too expensive assuming that old houses can get custom made window frames for every window and maybe get a carpenter or a builder to adjust one's walls. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 853270 | 2010-01-30 03:27:00 | Solar takes 10-15 years to start paying back. I have lived in houses with and without insulation, I will never live in an un-insulated one again ever. Any window just about can be double glazed again takes awhile to pay back but worth it if you can afford it. The one thing is not to over capitalise unless you don't plan on leaving until it's time for the wooden box | gary67 (56) | ||
| 853271 | 2010-01-30 05:49:00 | If you install a heat pump without insulation you will find it costly. they are designed to heat up a whole area to a set temperature, and if that area leaks heat you have to pay for that too. Most electric heaters run at a constant rate and don't heat up the whole area. Its a bit like keeping on pouring coffee into a mug with a hole in the bottom. To carry the analogy a bit further the electric heaters work by tipping the cup at an angle. If you are budgeting, DIY insulation is far better as it has no running costs and will make your present heating far more efficient, plus you can do it in stages as the budget permits, and shop around for the best deals there are bargains out there, |
PPp (9511) | ||
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