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| Thread ID: 107104 | 2010-02-04 04:10:00 | Speeding legal? | lance4k (4644) | PC World Chat |
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| 855282 | 2010-02-09 22:30:00 | Yes and maybe no sometimes, you are right when saying "if they are doing the limit there's no need to pass" but there are some annoying drivers who will speed up to the limit on passing lanes and then back to 85-90 after that ... Amen to that! If the culture could change to slow drivers decreasing speed while in passing areas to allow more people to pass them, all sides could be satisfied. |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 855283 | 2010-02-09 23:01:00 | Fair enough in a car but buses and trucks are normally giving it death up the hill at the beginning of a passing lane because their speed is decaying. They shouldnt have to back off one iota. | prefect (6291) | ||
| 855284 | 2010-02-10 00:36:00 | The solution is dont overtake if the closing speed is too slow Thats not a solution that's a closed mind. Its safer to speed in a passing lane when there are others wishing to also pass behind you. I actively encourage all to do so, and you guys saying otherwise are flat out wrong :) This is pretty much the one exception I can think of where moderate speeding is acceptable in fact desirable to "improve" safety. |
Battleneter2 (9361) | ||
| 855285 | 2010-02-10 00:48:00 | Quote: Originally Posted by Billy T forums.pcworld.co.nz (forums.pcworld.co.nz) So you are a 38 year-old dipstick going on 19. The behaviours you advocate and the arguments you advance are simplistic at best, puerile more likely. Don't use the passing lane unless passing, stay within the speed limit when passing, if they are doing the limit there's no need to pass anyway (you got a funeral to go to?) and don't waste your time wittering on about other drivers, examine the image in your bathroom mirror first. The law is not wrong, it is the law, you simply disagree with its effects, but it is set for the lowest common denominators and just like other laws protect the young or defenceless, these laws take into account drivers of all abilities and vehicles of all capabilities, driving in varying conditions of lighting, weather and road condition. Get over it. Billy Battleneter2 'Lol I guess some people have very small minds and are unable to think for themselves and you are one of these people. If you can't see the danger you cause by taking an ENTIRE passing lane sitting on 100 to pass a large truck with people behind you trying to do the same, then its people like you that get others killed. The Law is the Law no argument. I will continue to be thoughtful to fellow drivers behind me and drive with common sence in this "one" scanario until the road rules change' Oh dear lot's of name calling here. New Zealanders seem to be obsessive with the speeding thing ( the act of exceeding an arbitrary and unscientific number on a pole). The M.O.T states that Speed is the biggest killer on the Roads, note the word speed not speeding. Speed is classed in 2 ways Excessive speed which is going over the limit and inappropriate speed which is going too fast for the conditions. In the stats they don't separate the two. So even under the speed limit you can be killed, In fact losing control while cornering 27.4% and head on (not overtaking but crossing the centre line or cutting corner) 27.1% . There is usually more than one reason for a crash. Loss of control of the vehicle due to going too fast for the conditions, inattention, alcohol and drugs. Inexperience and at 14% road factors. Isn't it funny that if I travel on a motorway in NZ at 120km I am speeding and I am a crazed killers in some peoples eyes. I can travel to the UK and do 70 mph or go to France and do 130km legally or go to Italy and do 150Km legally. or drive in urban areas around the world ranging from 40, 50, 60 ,70km. So who is correct ? Some limits are set to low others are set too high. Yes there are people who will endanger lives and property by driving at dangerous speeds and they need to be taken off the roads. when driving you need to stay within the law and remember Drive so that you can always stop (on your side of the road) in the distance that you can see to be clear. Clear means free from all hazards of every nature. :2cents: |
wmoore (6009) | ||
| 855286 | 2010-02-10 01:19:00 | What ever the speed limit for that area, if you exceed that limit to pass or complete a overtake, then you can be pinged for speeding. Depends on the officer at the time as to whether he/she will push it or not. Also depends on your attitude when stopped, get all pouty about it and you will probably get pinged. Though if the car you were overtaking is way under the speed limit as well and holding up traffic, they could also expect to get pinged. Though I have been pinged sitting on 110 with cruise control in a 100k zone soon after getting off a plane and got off that as I explained to the highway patrol officer that I had just come off a flight from WA where I had done several weeks of open road driving where the speed limit there is 110, my mind was still set on WA speed, he was quite cheerful about it, never ran my name or anything, a few words about the weather etc and was on my way again.....with the cruise control set at 100. |
PinoyKiw (9675) | ||
| 855287 | 2010-02-10 02:15:00 | Well for the record I am against speeding and don't do it myself accecpt a few situations . Speeding is most definately the #1 cause of deaths . I am however not all hysterical like some in this thread that can't understand there are a few situations where going over 100 is preferable . Passing lanes with others behind and maybe when over taking a car doing say 95 . Good driving is as much about using your brain as it is about following the road rules . |
Battleneter2 (9361) | ||
| 855288 | 2010-02-10 06:59:00 | wmoore makes a good point. speeding is just not about actual speed limits. its about the attitude of drivers. the go-go-go, push-psuh-psuh, get the @#$% out of my way, your only doing 95km/h go faster ya @#$$ ..... mentality. however speed limits are very easy to enforce. they can sit on the side of the road with a radar gun, a cheap way to do their road enforcement hours. by bringing the enforced limits down over the years they have started to change that bad driving culture. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 855289 | 2010-02-10 07:01:00 | The faster you go, the less chance you have of passing a petrol pump ;) | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 855290 | 2010-02-10 07:13:00 | Yes and maybe no sometimes, you are right when saying "if they are doing the limit there's no need to pass" but there are some annoying drivers who will speed up to the limit on passing lanes and then back to 85-90 after that ... *555 or roadwatch (forms.police.govt.nz) their arses ! Amen to that! If the culture could change to slow drivers decreasing speed while in passing areas to allow more people to pass them, all sides could be satisfied. the problem with that is you will have more than one cook in the kitchen so to speak. with overtaking its the overtaking vehicle who makes the decision to overtake or pull back. by having someone slow up for them to overtake makes it very dangerous as you don't know what each driver is going to do. even worse when overtaking drivers expect the other vehicle to slow right up to allow them to overtake safely. then theres the attitude side of it, everyone will expect everyone else to get out of their way (which brings us back to the speeding attitude) don't forget the old "hang em out to dry" trick, ie to speed up to stop the overtake and slow down to stop the overtaking vehicle from pulling back, keeping them on the wrong side of the road into oncoming traffic. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 855291 | 2010-02-10 07:40:00 | Not everybody has a Kenworth for doing the laundry. ;) | R2x1 (4628) | ||
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