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Thread ID: 112339 2010-09-01 22:35:00 Connecting two servers via their second NIC's nofam (9009) Press F1
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1133770 2010-09-10 03:15:00 Bump for progress on your backups....Im now snapshoting and backup up a 20Gb disk in about 18min to a SATA drive, then at just over 1Gb/min to a LTO1......Takes about 6 tape to backup all my VMs....have spoken to the boss, I want a LTO4 (funny thing is its cheaper than the original drive). Told him it will cost 45 x 6 +GST to back the VMs, however only 1 x 67 +GST on the new drive..LOL SolMiester (139)
1133771 2010-09-10 04:23:00 Bump for progress on your backups....Im now snapshoting and backup up a 20Gb disk in about 18min to a SATA drive, then at just over 1Gb/min to a LTO1......Takes about 6 tape to backup all my VMs....have spoken to the boss, I want a LTO4 (funny thing is its cheaper than the original drive). Told him it will cost 45 x 6 +GST to back the VMs, however only 1 x 67 +GST on the new drive..LOL

Ha ha yeah, we haven't managed to resolve the tape drive issue; I've found plenty of solutions with outer combinations of SCSI card/tape drive, but I'm reluctant to run it on a production box - I'm just relying on VMware catching up with this issue, and increasing the compatibility list for vSphere - v4.1 is still pretty new.

For now, we're backing up the VM's to a workstation running Veeam - it's a pretty nice solution, with incremental backups that it can rollup etc. We'll then use Backup Exec to store these on the LTO3. Veeam offers really good compression on the VM files too.

Have you used this before?
nofam (9009)
1133772 2010-09-10 10:02:00 Ha ha yeah, we haven't managed to resolve the tape drive issue; I've found plenty of solutions with outer combinations of SCSI card/tape drive, but I'm reluctant to run it on a production box - I'm just relying on VMware catching up with this issue, and increasing the compatibility list for vSphere - v4.1 is still pretty new.

For now, we're backing up the VM's to a workstation running Veeam - it's a pretty nice solution, with incremental backups that it can rollup etc. We'll then use Backup Exec to store these on the LTO3. Veeam offers really good compression on the VM files too.

Have you used this before?
Veam is great, but not free, I dont need daily or even weekly VM images, the virtual server itself + file level backup via physical box tape drive is enough.
Oh, and you will be wiating along time for VMWare to pass thru the raw SCSI connect to a backup drive, it isnt going to happen, as realistically, you will have a physical box to to restore from before you have a virtual box.
SolMiester (139)
1133773 2010-09-10 11:42:00 Oh, and you will be wiating along time for VMWare to pass thru the raw SCSI connect to a backup drive, it isnt going to happen, as realistically, you will have a physical box to to restore from before you have a virtual box.

But that's the thing - apparently it was working fine with ESXi 4.0 - many of the people chucking their toys on the vmware forum were happily backing up directly (not using pass-through) on 4.0 - upgraded to 4.1, and it all went t*ts up (communities.vmware.com).

Here too (communities.vmware.com)

Take your point about Veeam too - it's really more of a business continuity tool than a backup solution. Haven't got firm pricing for it yet either.
nofam (9009)
1133774 2010-09-11 04:45:00 Well, would you believe that, didnt know you could get a raw tape drive connection thru to a VM?..... SolMiester (139)
1133775 2010-09-11 05:33:00 Well, would you believe that, didnt know you could get a raw tape drive connection thru to a VM? . . . . .

Well, ya can't if you're using 4 . 1!!! :p

But yeah, will be interesting to see how it plays out - I'm sure they'll fix it up . Still quite curious to see how good the throughput is though . . . .
nofam (9009)
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