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Thread ID: 107134 2010-02-05 09:39:00 Ungrateful Foreigners... Cato (6936) PC World Chat
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855627 2010-02-05 09:39:00 Every time I talk to immigrants (keep in mind, I was not born here), in every bloody conversation they say... "Back in South Africa..." ... "Back in India..." "Back in Australia..." "Back in England..."

It pisses me off. Every time we have a rugby game, all the aussies, pommies, and the south africans (definitely the worst of the lot, IMO), they always cheer against the All Black/Black Caps/whoever is playing.
They are always against the home teams. ALWAYS.

Why all the patriotism? If you love your country, why don't you go back?
If you are moving here how about you cheer for us?
Why is it always them?

The arrogance of telling us how their home country (which they all willing left for a better life in NZ) is so awesome and how things get done there so awesomely. It quite frankly pisses me off.

Show some bloody patriotism, if you don't want to: LEAVE.
It's that easy.

Another issues, all these non english speakers, doesn't matter who is around they start blabbing to the guy next to them in Afrikans, Jamaican, Tonga, Indian, Thai, Japanese, Mongolian or Mandarin - that's pretty rude, IMO.
There are two languages I will recognize spoken in New Zealand - English and Maori. That's it.
If you ain't a tourist, learn one of them. End of story.
Don't want to?
That's line, **** GTFO.
It's that easy.

[/rant]
Cato (6936)
855628 2010-02-05 09:45:00 I get the same here Cato but it's more like back in ( name your NZ town here ). Sweep (90)
855629 2010-02-05 09:52:00 Couldn't agree more, what also pisses me off wholesale are the immigrants who wear their national dress around the streets. When in Rome do as the Romans do is what I would do if I settled in another place try and blend in.
The one group I wish the government would stop allowing in are the boers I have never met a non racist one and I tell you there are heaps of them in Western Auckland.
They love to tell stories about shooting blacks.
I worked in an engineering shop in Melbourne with a bunch of poms I would be rich if I got a dollar each time I heard "back in England we did ................ bla bla"
prefect (6291)
855630 2010-02-05 09:55:00 Agreed 100% --Wolf-- (128)
855631 2010-02-05 11:33:00 Every time I talk to immigrants (keep in mind, I was not born here), in every bloody conversation they say ... "Back in South Africa ... " ... "Back in India ... " "Back in Australia ... " "Back in England ... "

It pisses me off. Every time we have a rugby game, all the aussies, pommies, and the south africans (definitely the worst of the lot, IMO), they always cheer against the All Black/Black Caps/whoever is playing.
They are always against the home teams. ALWAYS.

Why all the patriotism? If you love your country, why don't you go back?
If you are moving here how about you cheer for us?
Why is it always them?

The arrogance of telling us how their home country (which they all willing left for a better life in NZ) is so awesome and how things get done there so awesomely. It quite frankly pisses me off.

Show some bloody patriotism, if you don't want to: LEAVE.
It's that easy.

Another issues, all these non english speakers, doesn't matter who is around they start blabbing to the guy next to them in Afrikans, Jamaican, Tonga, Indian, Thai, Japanese, Mongolian or Mandarin - that's pretty rude, IMO.
There are two languages I will recognize spoken in New Zealand - English and Maori. That's it.
If you ain't a tourist, learn one of them. End of story.
Don't want to?
That's line, **** GTFO.
It's that easy.

[/rant]
Meh, nvm. Stupid thread anyway- Also there's no such language as Indian. Look it up on Google, its amazing what you can learn from other people/cultures. Back in India, we take great pride in that :)
beeswax34 (63)
855632 2010-02-05 11:42:00 boers
What's a boer?
qazwsxokmijn (102)
855633 2010-02-05 12:27:00 What's a boer?

Dutch colonists of Africa, pretty much those guys who speak Afrikans rather than English.

"Ja zoz Blacks and thoze fukin colordz" it's pretty much every second sentence of theirs. And their arrogance. Never seen a thing like it.

Churchill got his reputation fighting them.

beeswax34, yes I am aware there is no language as "Indian" but there are many Indian languages, correct? :p

And let me tell you something about culture, I am not aware of any culture in which ostracizing people by speaking a language which they cannot understand is acceptable. Please correct me here if I am wrong.
Cato (6936)
855634 2010-02-05 13:17:00 Dutch colonists of Africa, pretty much those guys who speak Afrikans rather than English.

"Ja zoz Blacks and thoze fukin colordz" it's pretty much every second sentence of theirs. And their arrogance. Never seen a thing like it.

Churchill got his reputation fighting them.

beeswax34, yes I am aware there is no language as "Indian" but there are many Indian languages, correct? :p

And let me tell you something about culture, I am not aware of any culture in which ostracizing people by speaking a language which they cannot understand is acceptable. Please correct me here if I am wrong.

Indeed, there are many Indian languages- probably because we did not force people to just stick to one or two so called "official" languages. Diversity is the product of creativity.

And I don't think anyone is trying to ostracize anyone by speaking another language. If I can get my point across to someone better in another language rather than in English then I will do so because it serves my purpose. If it annoys you or others then too bad, that's life.

Also, NZ'ers don't really speak very good English and have atrocious spelling and grammar (I mark plenty of exams and teach- trust me it's true) so maybe if NZ'ers spoke English better, we'd actually want to speak it to you.

Assimilation into a country is to be celebrated by all means. But forgetting your culture and history for the sake of appeasing ignorant nationalists is a whole other issue.
beeswax34 (63)
855635 2010-02-05 17:20:00 The cops here in the US get to see a battered woman and the husband is really defensive and says: "In MY country, we can beat our women all the time and it's not a crime . "

HERE - woman-beating IS a crime and they go off to jail .

That's always amazed me that they even think things like that .

Words and instinctive or old cultural behavior however - don't satisfactorily answer the question "Why be/do/say that here" rings badly if the person came here to get away from injustice, crime and threats of violence - when they re-create the the same lifestyle HERE as they ran away from in their old country?

Must not be just in Upsidedown Land - it's everywhere I feel . People are in survival mode and they just aren't thinking any more .
SurferJoe46 (51)
855636 2010-02-05 18:32:00 But you go overseas and see the same thing the other way round. pctek (84)
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