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Thread ID: 107436 2010-02-15 23:03:00 Nortons 2009 and Windows 7 Pro PinoyKiw (9675) PC World Chat
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858899 2010-02-15 23:03:00 Since there has been a couple of threads lately regarding Nortons and how it seems to miss a lot...........

Well, not quite the same here but problematic all the same.

Was lucky enough to lay my hands on a brand new out of the box Toshiba Laptop on Saturday morning. That was 10am.

Of course, it was loaded with freebie's including a demo of Office 2007 and Nortons 2009 Security.

First job was to change the updates to download but not install and then starting at the top of the program list, started to remove the freebie.

All went well till I uninstalled Nortons. Rebooted and 2 hours later the laptop is still Please Standby, Windows Configuring Changes.

Killed it and restored it back to factory settings and started again, this time I started with Nortons being first out the gate and same thing happened again, left it this time, took 4 hours to reboot. Nortons gone but it was sooooo slow. Loaded the nortons removal tool and it wouldn't run. Waited for all the updates to finish downloading, 48 critical one's and most of them failed when installed.

Tried to access Windows Updates manually but after a hour it is just sitting there still showing 0% downloaded.

OK. By now it is dark and I am starting to get ****

Since the laptop came with a roll back DVD to WindowsXP Pro, dropped that in, changed the Bios, rebooted and 15 minutes later, WinXP is in, 3 hours later all the updates are in and programs all installed and it was all tweaked and singing.

Seems that Nortons Security didn't like getting uninstalled, uninstalling could have corrupted other files resulting in nothing really working as it should.

At least with the roll back DVD, there was no Nortons Freebie included.

Windows7 Pro which was my first look at in operation seems ok, different but not that different to XP.

Oh, the joys of Nortons.............

I am supposed to be getting a Win7 Pro CD at some stage from the computer shop as a back up, I would be interested in knowing, if I load Win7 on top of WinXP, will be go ok or would you suggest reformatting, loading Win7 fresh and starting from nothing again.?
PinoyKiw (9675)
858900 2010-02-15 23:08:00 Blow it all away and start fresh. Cannot recommend this strongly enough. johcar (6283)
858901 2010-02-15 23:14:00 Thought that might be the case, was leaning that way myself, just need to set some time aside some time to do it. PinoyKiw (9675)
858902 2010-02-15 23:26:00 I have never seen Norton uninstall itself properly, even the removal tool doesn't work sometimes.

If I was to ever purchase a brand name PC with Windows preinstalled, First thing I would do was reinstall Windows.

Everyone installs far too much crap that nobody ever needs. The only stuff that is required are drivers and hotkey applications etc for laptops. Everything else can go in the bin.

Most of the bundled applications are worthless anyway as they are usually only trial\demo versions.
Agent_24 (57)
858903 2010-02-15 23:31:00 You won't need that much time either - 20 - 30 minutes will install Win7 on a clean disk (updates will depend on your internet connection, naturally)... johcar (6283)
858904 2010-02-15 23:37:00 By the time I was finished with it, I was starting to wonder if a straight out fresh install wouldn't have been a better way of doing it but all I had was the roll back disk and the factory install restore was on its own partition. I was hoping to have had copy of the Win7 DVD/CD so I could have done my own thing independent of the factory restore partition but that wasn't available right then. PinoyKiw (9675)
858905 2010-02-16 01:08:00 Perhaps this may have been a better tool to use

http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/

I've used it a couple of times and it did the job well with no issues.
HAL9000 (12736)
858906 2010-02-16 01:15:00 I have heard it's a good program, and I'm sure it is. But personally I would just reinstall Windows. Nothing removes crap like a full format. Agent_24 (57)
858907 2010-02-16 01:28:00 Run the removal tool as admin Speedy Gonzales (78)
858908 2010-02-16 05:48:00 Perhaps this may have been a better tool to use

http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/

Just downloaded it and added to my cache of software tools. Thanks.
PinoyKiw (9675)
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