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| Thread ID: 107537 | 2010-02-20 10:28:00 | Jap Imports + snow tyres? | bk T (215) | PC World Chat |
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| 860187 | 2010-02-21 05:13:00 | Who cares a tyre is a tyre is a tyre, wear them out and replace them. If you drive like an idiot you might have problem with handling. Just take it easy cornering. I drove a Ford roll your own (E93A) for over 30 years no shock absorbers, skinny crossplys, suicide springs drove it mega pissed never rolled it. I think it had been rolled in the 50s before I had it because the roof was filled with lead in places. I would still be driving it if it hand not fallen to bits with rust. Its been to North Cape and Bluff how did I do it? driving carefully. +1. Too much BS, and too much wimp mongering. Mind you... If we are talking about safety here... Make sure you don't slip. Some shoes aren't that good... My god, you could have some crappy jandals, slip and snap your neck!!!! THINK OF THE CHILDREN! |
Cato (6936) | ||
| 860188 | 2010-02-21 05:56:00 | Who cares a tyre is a tyre is a tyre, wear them out and replace them. If you drive like an idiot you might have problem with handling. Just take it easy cornering. I drove a Ford roll your own (E93A) for over 30 years no shock absorbers, skinny crossplys, suicide springs drove it mega pissed never rolled it. I think it had been rolled in the 50s before I had it because the roof was filled with lead in places. I would still be driving it if it hand not fallen to bits with rust. Its been to North Cape and Bluff how did I do it? driving carefully. yes and no. lots of older cars handle badly but where rather predictable ie its easy to tell when you start getting near the limit. however putting unpredictable tires on a good handling vehicle is much much worse than your old ford. the vehicle will handle perfectly, grip fine so you drive it normally, then it will just let go without warning. that will catch out a lot of drivers. most sensible drivers will chuck the tires and get new ones. but some will persist with the bad tires (can't afford new ones??) and after a while forget about it until they let go again, this time they might not survive. mates used to have the same problem with mag wheels and some tires. some tires gripped great, car handled well but they didn't loose traction gently. they just let go. they didn't start to slide, they just went from perfect to nothing. what a nightmare to drive as you didn't know when the tires would let go. that was a lot more of a problem when the cars where over tired (tires to big, to grippy for the car) |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 860189 | 2010-02-22 11:02:00 | Tires are cheap compared to a car, if your lookin at importin and the car is good but has "snow" tires just destroy them up and down the drive and splash out on the safest most overpriced tire you can find. I drive on cheapo tires and the road is my racetrack, havent had traction problems under sensible conditions yet |
hueybot3000 (3646) | ||
| 860190 | 2010-02-22 11:15:00 | Traction under senseless conditions is occasionally important too. Stopping for instance. You don't always get to choose when and where you have to stop in a hurry, but you have a bit of time to choose your tires. Since there is such a tiny bit of tire connecting you to the world, it might as well be a good tire. |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 860191 | 2010-02-22 17:29:00 | Lots of info there - not ACCURATE - but lots of it anyway. Where on the whole island seismic upheaval can anyone in Upsidedown Land get to drive hard enough, fast enough and far enough to get a "snow tire" to overheat anyway? The ONLY real caveat with snow tires is that since they have larger lugs and therefor deeper rubber casting, is the resultant heat build up and POSSIBLE radial ply delamination. You'd have to drive across Death Valley, at high noon, at speeds exceeding the tire rating and carrying a few room temperature bodies for the Mafia to get them to overheat anyway. (Yeah - they will wear faster, but then again so do sticky racing tires) So what's the big deal? Actually "ST-rated" (Snow/Mud) tires have a lot lower hysteresis in the rubber compounding to make them more compliant to road conditions under colder use - (so they flex when cold) and that usually translates to 'better traction' (which is really a misnomer) and in moderately warmer temps can actually increase traction to a point during "normal" driving conditions. Tire mis-ideas and black magic still exists I guess. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 860192 | 2010-02-22 17:31:00 | Tires are cheap compared to a car, if your lookin at importin and the car is good but has "snow" tires just destroy them up and down the drive and splash out on the safest most overpriced tire you can find. I drive on cheapo tires and the road is my racetrack, havent had traction problems under sensible conditions yet I'm beginning to like you a whole lot better. You make sense. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 860193 | 2010-02-22 20:21:00 | Lots of info there - not ACCURATE - but lots of it anyway . Where on the whole island seismic upheaval can anyone in Upsidedown Land get to drive hard enough, fast enough and far enough to get a "snow tire" to overheat anyway? The ONLY real caveat with snow tires is that since they have larger lugs and therefor deeper rubber casting, is the resultant heat build up and POSSIBLE radial ply delamination . You'd have to drive across Death Valley, at high noon, at speeds exceeding the tire rating and carrying a few room temperature bodies for the Mafia to get them to overheat anyway . (Yeah - they will wear faster, but then again so do sticky racing tires) European snow tyre manufacturers warn that snow tyres wear rapidly if still used in Spring especially on coarse chip roads . If you accept that they will be wearing faster why claim they aren't overheating? |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 860194 | 2010-02-22 20:25:00 | Arguing about snow tyres is pointless as most imports don't come in with them anyway. | Battleneter2 (9361) | ||
| 860195 | 2010-02-23 04:56:00 | M+S tires are a lot different to car snow tires. won't take much to get temps up, considering the tar here melts in summer a bit of spirited driving on rough chip hot roads will get tire temps way up. its not so much that it will get sidewalls to delaminate but the compound to go to soft and loose grip. don't forget these are also unknown used 2nd hand tires. i don't think this thread is pointless, snow tires on imports may be rare but drivers in auckland (in fact most drivers don't live in snow country in NZ) will know nothing about them and won't be aware of the risk. end of the day car tires are generally cheap, it would be better if importers tossed the snow tires (or sold them in the South Island). |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 860196 | 2010-02-23 05:09:00 | European snow tyre manufacturers warn that snow tyres wear rapidly if still used in Spring especially on coarse chip roads. If you accept that they will be wearing faster why claim they aren't overheating? European snow is quite different to ours, being 6 months late it is much snowier. When I tried driving on some snow tires, they were rather unpredictable, about as bad as Town & Country tires on an original VW. Eyebrow raising stuff. |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
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