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Thread ID: 108069 2010-03-12 19:47:00 Review: 4 inexpensive mp3 players Strommer (42) PC World Chat
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866480 2010-03-12 19:47:00 The 4 mp3 players are:

Sony 4 Gb NWZB143FB {current price approx} $99 - $130

Laser 4 Gb MF611 $45

Samsung 4 Gb YP-U4 $59

Dick Smith brand 4 Gb $39

All of these mp3 players are thin and compact, without large screens.
See photo here: www.imagef1.net.nz

I wanted to update the cheap no-name 1 Gb mp3 player that I bought off Trademe a long time ago because the sound quality was poor and the menu was frustratingly awful.

Starting at the cheapest, I found that the Dick Smith mp3 player was the same as the old Trademe and in fact the Laser was the same except the outer appearance was better. All 3 cheapies have the same frustrating menu. Therefore I can sum up the Laser and DSE players in one word: Bad. But they are cheap, and they do work, so if you are on a very tight budget and all you want to do is dump a huge number of individual mp3 tracks and don't care about the sound quality, then they are OK.

The Samsung was next. I chose the purple colour and I must say that it looked beautiful. The sound quality was better than the previous cheapies but not by much. However the worst thing about the Samsung was the 'tap control'. There are no buttons - you have to 'tap' specific areas to move around the menu or to adjust the volume. What a joke - I had to repeatedly finger tap to get what I wanted and in the end gave up. Nice idea but not practical.

Sony is next and now I want to admit that in general I do not like Sony as a company mainly because they seem to have overpriced products and have done nasty things like secretly installing root kit 'trojans' on PC's. [For other reasons why I do not like Sony, read this article (digg.com)and the comments below the link.] So reluctantly I bought the more expensive Sony...

... And wow was I impressed! The Sony simply surpassed all my expectations. The sound quality is superb - the bass control and equalizer actually work very well (unlike the 3 above mp3 players). The screen is very bright and very easy to read and navigate - way way better than the Laser / Dick Smith and my old Trademe unit. The FM radio is more sensitive, with more memory pre-selections than the others. The voice recorder has 3 quality settings. 18 hours battery life is much more than the others (other reviews have shown the Samsung not to have the 15 hours stated), and the recharge is quick - less than an hour for me, and a 3 minute charge gives 90 minutes of music. Sony's ZAPPIN function works well - it is a type of fast-forward in either long or short play segments. The Sony menu allows you to easily navigate and go up to 5 levels of folders.

BTW, I compared the sound quality on all mp3 players with good quality headphones (not the ear plugs provided with each player). I had assumed that whatever mp3 player I would have, I would have to buy better quality ear plugs (paying at least $30), but the sound quality with the Sony ear plugs is good enough not to require an upgrade.

Finally, a word about total storage size: I was going to go with a 2 Gb Sony for $79, but I am glad to have double the size for only $20 more (I paid $99 at Noel Leemings). The extra storage means you will not be using your pc to transferring files as often. Noel Leemings had no problem with me returning the Laser and Samsung, and DSE was also OK; I did return each unit on the same day that I got them, did not use the ear plugs, and the packaging was in perfect order.
Strommer (42)
866481 2010-03-12 21:27:00 So can you just do drag an drop from your PC Steve with no software needed as I remember the early Sony's needed sonicstage which is why I no longer use my mp3 player cant find the software and it was a pain anyway couldn't just copy my mp3 in they had to be ripped into the software gary67 (56)
866482 2010-03-12 21:54:00 So can you just do drag an drop from your PC Steve with no software needed as I remember the early Sony's needed sonicstage which is why I no longer use my mp3 player cant find the software and it was a pain anyway couldn't just copy my mp3 in they had to be ripped into the software

Yes, drag and drop is OK with the Sony. Features and specifications:

# Direct USB connectivity
# FM tuner and record function
# Super-quick charge: 3 min charge for 90 minute playback
# Drag & Drop functionality (no software required)
# Up to 18 hours battery life
# Voice recording function
# ZAPPIN function which automatically detects and plays the chorus of each track in 4 or 15 second intervals
# MP3 and WMA playback (DRM)
# 5 preset equalizer: Heavy, Pop, Jazz, Unique, Custom
# 29 grams with Flash Memory powered by Inbuilt Rechargeable Batteries.
# Data Storage
Strommer (42)
866483 2010-03-13 02:53:00 So can you just do drag an drop from your PC Steve with no software needed as I remember the early Sony's needed sonicstage which is why I no longer use my mp3 player cant find the software and it was a pain anyway couldn't just copy my mp3 in they had to be ripped into the software

Sony are all MP3 now... in some wys a shame as I always felt that despite the clumsy procedure with Sony's ATRAC format, it gave a better sound than MP3 compression. I am hanging on to my old HiMD player for this reason, even though I have a Sony 8GB MP3 player.

Interesting that the PS3 will only rip in ATRAC and AC3 formats. The ATRAC is brilliant on a PS3!

Ken
kenj (9738)
866484 2010-03-13 19:50:00 The 4 mp3 players are:

Sony 4 Gb NWZB143FB {current price approx} $99 - $130

Laser 4 Gb MF611 $45

Samsung 4 Gb YP-U4 $59

Dick Smith brand 4 Gb $39



. . . And wow was I impressed! The Sony simply surpassed all my expectations .

So the most expensive won?

A friend of mine, a bit of an audiophile, thinks there are only 2 worth bothering with - the ipod and the Creative Zen .
he looked at the frequency range as well .
pctek (84)
866485 2010-03-15 08:11:00 [U] . . . And wow was I impressed! The Sony simply surpassed all my expectations . The sound quality is superb - the bass control and equalizer actually work very well (unlike the 3 above mp3 players) . The screen is very bright and very easy to read and navigate - way way better than the Laser / Dick Smith and my old Trademe unit .

So what part of 'you get what you pay for' didn't you understand before you undertook this research exercise? In the history of consumer electronics, there has always been a yawning gulf between quality and price, and Sony has always been superb, but more expensive and well worth the price .

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
866486 2010-03-15 10:15:00 Just add one further ingredient - - luck.
I bought an MP4 player off Trademe about three years ago, it is still going fine. It does some of the things the Sony does, FM radio (which it can record) plays most audio formats including Ogg Vorbis which matters to me, plays movies (although a 40 mm diagonal picture is not too useful) in WMV or MP4, has 4GB of flash memory, can drag and drop in or out, and can act as a reasonable audio recorder. It only has about a 4 hour playing time now, so I lashed out $6.00 for a new Li-Po battery which I will solder in tomorrow to restore the old 8 hour play time. Not as good as the Sony, but at $27 I could have bought 3 of them to beat the Sony ;) and still have a bit of change.
I have tried to buy more of them, but the trader who sold it to me has vanished.
R2x1 (4628)
866487 2010-03-15 21:15:00 Re sound quality: did you measure this by using the headphones/earbuds the players came with, or did you use the same headphones for each one?

I have one of those laser ones, the menu system is poor and it only transfers files at USB 1. But using good headphones, it sounds as good as any other. It also uses AAA batteries, which for me is a good thing (I always have a charged set). I only paid $30 for 4gb.
utopian201 (6245)
866488 2010-03-15 23:02:00 Re sound quality: did you measure this by using the headphones/earbuds the players came with, or did you use the same headphones for each one?

I have one of those laser ones, the menu system is poor and it only transfers files at USB 1. But using good headphones, it sounds as good as any other. It also uses AAA batteries, which for me is a good thing (I always have a charged set). I only paid $30 for 4gb.
Re your question: did you read the post at all or could you not be ****ed?

BTW, I compared the sound quality on all mp3 players with good quality headphones (not the ear plugs provided with each player). I had assumed that whatever mp3 player I would have, I would have to buy better quality ear plugs (paying at least $30), but the sound quality with the Sony ear plugs is good enough not to require an upgrade.
roddy_boy (4115)
866489 2010-03-15 23:04:00 Re your question: did you read the post at all or could you not be ****ed?

:):)

Ken
kenj (9738)
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