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| 1454182 | 2018-10-08 07:30:00 | Has anyone investigated this system? I have created a DVD of it from an ISO. Usually it is a bootable,stand alone DVD but can be copied to a flashdrive or to a fixed disk. I have a spare, older Acer desktop. I put a fresh HDD in it and have installed the Knoppix on it. The O/S seems very, very good. |
Bryan (147) | ||
| 1454183 | 2018-10-08 08:29:00 | Have not used Knoppix in ages but as I recall it was the OS that started Live booting, may not be historically correct but thats how I knew of it. Nowadays they all do it so you have many choices. I am happy with Manjaro, bleeding edge software, not as involved in setting it up as Arch and is very lean that I only install things as needed, so my computers runs blazingly fast. However, if you're new to Linux, I believe any Ubuntu based distribution be the easiest to get people started. You'll also find it'll help with servers as many will run that or CentOS which is based off Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Red Hat was my first Linux experience and was great to learn the nitty gritty but nowadays a lot of distributions remove that and it sort of dumbs you down. |
Kame (312) | ||
| 1454184 | 2018-10-08 08:35:00 | Red Hat was my first Linux experience and was great to learn the nitty gritty but nowadays a lot of distributions remove that and it sort of dumbs you down . :p Blimey Kame, dont let B . M see you posting like that, you may upset him . Its true though, higher end Linux OS, like mentioned (CentOS) are more widely used in Enterprise and business, not the general user versions . |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1454185 | 2018-10-08 08:58:00 | Just being honest . The reason I moved to Mint was to get away from editting configs (I wanted more productive time) but after so long, you start losing how to do these things and this was pretty much the universal way to fix any issue on Linux . So that's why I went with Manjaro, not as hardcore as Arch but still makes you work, especially with the tools you have if you get lazy to install GUIs . (It's kind of like how people forgot how powerful DOS could be) . The benefits of running the latest software for me outweighs the long periods that Ubuntu/Mint take . There should not be a need to do a fresh install and you only start with the basics, so no bloat . You will probably never see it used for a production server, because services like to target specific versions and it would be too involved for them if they worked with Arch/Manjaro that can change software versions daily . Arch has a lot of wealth in its wiki for the linux tinkerer . |
Kame (312) | ||
| 1454186 | 2018-10-08 18:03:00 | Will be following this thread with interest to see if our other resident Linux guru can shed any light. The one who is an expert on every subject. :eek::devil | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1454187 | 2018-10-09 20:15:00 | So that's why I went with Manjaro, not as hardcore as Arch but still makes you work, especially with the tools you have if you get lazy to install GUIs. (It's kind of like how people forgot how powerful DOS could be). The benefits of running the latest software for me outweighs the long periods that Ubuntu/Mint take. There should not be a need to do a fresh install and you only start with the basics, so no bloat. You will probably never see it used for a production server, because services like to target specific versions and it would be too involved for them if they worked with Arch/Manjaro that can change software versions daily. Arch has a lot of wealth in its wiki for the linux tinkerer. Well, that's a coincidence :D I installed Manjaro KDE Stable edition about ten days ago on my old HP EliteBook laptop. I've heard good things about Manjaro for some time and I've been keen to try a rolling-release distro for a change. I've also got Linux Deepin (another rolling release distro) installed in the other partition on this laptop but I find Deepin, while beautiful, is a little too "dumbed down" (for my taste) as you put it. Anyway, that's another story. I've been using Ubuntu/Kubuntu (mainly) for over ten years now but recently I've been getting tired of clean installs every two years or so to install the latest LTS release of Kubuntu as I don't trust the in-place dist-upgrade tool to work properly (too many failures I've read about). Manjaro is just quite a change for me and is very fast too. I'm still using my favoured desktop (KDE Plasma) so the gui is not too different, but the underlying tools for installing software are a little more of a challenge. Like, I wanted to install Google Chrome but it's not so simple as in Debian-Ubuntu based distros (download the latest .deb file and install it). I agree with you that Manjaro isn't the easiest distro for newbies to use (although there are many newbies using it). What edition are you using Kame? The stable KDE version comes with heaps of software installed that I didn't expect (Thunderbird, Skype, qBittorrent, Steam, etc). The Arch User Repository (AUR) is stuffed with just about everything you could want (including Google Chrome). I've used the Arch wiki for many years as the documentation standard there is first class. It's a wealth of knowledge for Linux "tinkerers" like ourselves. Here's a screenshot of mine: 9082 |
Rod J (451) | ||
| 1454188 | 2018-10-09 21:05:00 | I tried the latest Knoppix and tho good, is bloated . A good tool as its always been, but not as a 'daily driver' . I have tried most of the distros but have settled on Mint 18 . 3 because it is simple to use, and all my time is productive . I dual boot with Windows 10 Pro as some of the Windows software is more convenient . I hate W10, before I get a look in, it has to do a scan, do updates, etc, unlike Linux which boots in a few seconds and is ready to work . If you just want to get your work done, and not mess about I recommend Mint . Some of the others are more interesting, and exercise the brain, so have both if you like . Incidentally, if you have problems multi booting on a GPT/UEFI machine you can install ReFind in Linux, this finds all the boot-able OS on your drives and gives you the choice of a text menu, or Icons . 100% reliable, easily removed, and doesn't alter any existing loaders . It does not work on MSDOS/MBR machines, but is not necessary anyway as you can use Grub, Grub4DOS being the easiest, and available on any Puppy or FatDog64 distros . |
mzee (3324) | ||
| 1454189 | 2018-10-10 00:32:00 | I'm using Cinnamon only because I also do a bit of development for it . I went with the minimal ISO because that only gives you enough to run the desktop, file manager, a text editor and a web browser . In my case Midori but I removed it in favour of Firefox because of plugins I use that help in web development . In most cases if I could avoid Chrome, I would use Chromium, which also helps in knowing the direction Chrome is heading in, normally a year in advance so you can prepare for the future . Having that choice of picking software you want is far better . I believe I have only added 4 programs, an email client, document viewer (for pdfs mainly), web browser and an irc client (development channels) . When I require something else, I'll install it when needed . I've gone back to heavily using the terminal so thats eliminated a lot of repetitive tools and brought things a lot closer to home for me . I'm not use to pacman yet but their graphical tool is simple enough to use for installing and keeping uptodate . It's not a huge disadvantage as I'm barely installing anything and I update as soon as im notified . KDE was a great looking desktop, I assume it's changed dramatically since I used it around the time Red Hat split into Fedora Core . The reason I didn't stay with it was at the time I preferred light desktops . So was running XFCE for a long time till I decided on going with a less fuss OS, Linux Mint, Cinnamon just because they developed it . So now after years of forgetting a lot of things,I wanted to go back and that's where Manjaro fit the picture and Cinnamon because of my developments towards it . I am looking at develping my own desktop but it's a lot of effort that I cant put much time into . For Arch, I like it's concept but setting every little thing is taking it too far back for me, especially when they are one off tasks that you just set and forget . |
Kame (312) | ||
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