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1454056	2018-10-05 00:52:00	.... I'm after getting Audacity to play at all. It worked when this 'puter was on XP - but on Mint, no way.	SurferJoe46 (51)
1454057	2018-10-05 01:52:00	It is an emulator. Stuff may work, or it may not. If it doesn't oh well, plenty of Linux alternatives around. I have it to run 2 very old games....that were Windows. Worked well. Ah but you see Wine Is Not an Emulator! https://www.winehq.org/ It is a compatibility layer, not the same at all	KarameaDave (15222)
1454058	2018-10-05 02:04:00	.... I'm after getting Audacity to play at all. It worked when this 'puter was on XP - but on Mint, no way. Dont try the windows version,its not designed for linux. Dont know about older versions of Linux, but on Mint 19, I simply went to this site community.linuxmint.com Clicked on the Install on the right and followed the prompts ( mainly permissions) and it installed fine, one part it did take a while but its also saying please wait.. This is Mint 19 on a VM with Audiacity installed and working as it should: 9068	wainuitech (129)
1454059	2018-10-05 02:54:00	Ah but you see Wine Is Not an Emulator! https://www.winehq.org/ It is a compatibility layer, not the same at all Wine emulates the Windows runtime environment by translating Windows system calls into POSIX-compliant system calls, recreating the directory structure of Windows systems, and providing alternative implementations of Windows system libraries, system services through wineserver and various other components (such as Internet Explorer, the Windows Registry Editor, and msiexec). Blah...blah...I don't really care. It works. Good enough for me.	piroska (17583)
1454060	2018-10-05 03:20:00	I was trying to explain it without suggesting it's an emulator. An emulator imitates the functions while wine may seem like this, it actually translates the functions to something the OS understands, you would normally call that a subsystem or in wine's case a compatibility layer. So an emulator will create the actual function to do the task, e.g if Windows had jump() the emulator will also have the function jump() but the programming may not be exact while wine sees jump() it will call the hosts OS function which maybe leap() and translates that back to something that is understood back to the program. I haven't kept up with ReactOS but this was an OS with the aim of becoming binary compatible with Windows with a lot of the code created from wine. You could say this is a Windows clone. When I last tried it, it resembled Windows 2000/XP. Audacity does work in Linux but for proprietary formats like .mp3, etc you need to install the plugins. It will work directly with the .ogg format. Try installing gstreamer plugins the good, bad and ugly. Just 'apt search gstreamer' then look for those 3 plugins. Also you may want to search for 'restricted' as mint may have a package that installs all the required plugins/codecs needed. It normally offers to do this for you during installation.	Kame (312)
1454061	2018-10-05 04:46:00	I was trying to explain it without suggesting it's an emulator. An emulator imitates the functions while wine may seem like this, it actually translates the functions to something the OS understands, you would normally call that a subsystem or in wine's case a compatibility layer. So an emulator will create the actual function to do the task, e.g if Windows had jump() the emulator will also have the function jump() but the programming may not be exact while wine sees jump() it will call the hosts OS function which maybe leap() and translates that back to something that is understood back to the program. I haven't kept up with ReactOS but this was an OS with the aim of becoming binary compatible with Windows with a lot of the code created from wine. You could say this is a Windows clone. When I last tried it, it resembled Windows 2000/XP. Audacity does work in Linux but for proprietary formats like .mp3, etc you need to install the plugins. It will work directly with the .ogg format. Try installing gstreamer plugins the good, bad and ugly. Just 'apt search gstreamer' then look for those 3 plugins. Also you may want to search for 'restricted' as mint may have a package that installs all the required plugins/codecs needed. It normally offers to do this for you during installation. ....... and the International Date Line has me at it's mercy again. This'll have to wait for the morning. I really am getting some understandable information here - thanks to everyone. FWIW: I printed out your instructions for the morrow!	SurferJoe46 (51)
1454062	2018-10-05 05:06:00	. Also you may want to search for 'restricted' as mint may have a package that installs all the required plugins/codecs needed . It normally offers to do this for you during installation . When you install Mint, it asks to download and install media Players, required codecs from third party suppliers etc, its an option not a requirement, if this option is chosen theres a good chance they will already be there . That's what I did with the VM /mint 19, as per the link also supplied installed Aduiacity, dragged a MP3 and it worked perfectly fine . Older versions of mint may not be so accommodating, but that's like ANY OS -- the newer versions make things easier, (read as dumbs them down) :p guess its the keeping up with progress . Newer Versions Of mint will have more features than older . BUT some still want to bury their heads in the sand, which is fine if happy with an older version . Take the Aduiacity, piece of cake after a quick google search "Aduiacity mint" = 1st result ;)	wainuitech (129)
1454063	2018-10-05 05:42:00	Question ------> if one is running a truly older desktop, then an earlier iteration of Linux should be all well-n-good - right? Old hardware may dislike a newer distro . I need to run Linux Mint 17 . 3 'cause of my older 'puter . 9067No . Old hardware is supported very well by the linux kernel (unless you’re talking nearly prehistoric - 486 support has just been removed f . e . ) . Old releases will also have (well documented) security issues that will never be patched . Use a current release and, if necessary, pick a DE or WM that is less resource hungry than Cinnamon/Gnome etc . LXDE is a pretty complete and preconfigured Openbox setup that should be pretty usable on most crufty old boxes . Of course, Blender etc . will still struggle so you’ll have to pick your apps to suit as well .	fred_fish (15241)
1454064	2018-10-05 23:16:00	By all means run both, But I wouldn't dual boot. You would be better off having one set as a VM (Virtual Machine) Of course the main thing is you need to have a computer thats powerful enough to run a VM as well as the hardware is capable. Running as VM's you can try many different OS's without effecting the host OS. Heres an example on this PC (VM) I can run any one of those in conjunction with the Host OS (Windows 10) 9066 In case you're interested, mint 12 is quite old - the latest is Mint 19. Trying to find help unless you have a friendly person who knows Linux can be painful. Sorry, quite right, is 19. I'm still trying to used to it. I did a linux cause, years ago, called unix I think and cant remember any of the commands. Must be old age, Gold card & all.	ianhnz (4263)
1454065	2018-10-05 23:17:00	No. Old hardware is supported very well by the linux kernel (unless you’re talking nearly prehistoric - 486 support has just been removed f.e.). Old releases will also have (well documented) security issues that will never be patched. Use a current release and, if necessary, pick a DE or WM that is less resource hungry than Cinnamon/Gnome etc. LXDE is a pretty complete and preconfigured Openbox setup that should be pretty usable on most crufty old boxes. Of course, Blender etc. will still struggle so you’ll have to pick your apps to suit as well. The computer I'm using is about 18 month old. It has 5 processors & 8 b's ram. Running so much better on Linux.	ianhnz (4263)
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