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Thread ID: 108299 2010-03-23 01:21:00 All of a sudden, I'm glad I voted National this time.... Peterj116 (6762) PC World Chat
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869302 2010-03-23 19:42:00 Well first create the jobs, should be easy, its just that no-one is trying hard enough.

People under the age of 25 will probably not know of a time when New Zealand manufactured goods - in those halcyon days a large proportion of the goods on sale were actually made in NZ, not in Taiwan, China, Phillipines etc etc.
We had new Zealanders in work, enjoying the self esteem of supporting themselves and their families.

And there were these things called SOEs. people were employed in things like the PO and Railways.
There was a Post Office and bank on every corner.
Now, there's nothing and the governments wonder why unemplyment has gone up so much.
pctek (84)
869303 2010-03-23 19:54:00 Previous governments have threatened to do something about the welfare system and when people start complaining and protesting, the government backs down and does nothing at all.

So I wouldn't be surprised that it doesn't happen at all.
Ice Road Trucker (15659)
869304 2010-03-23 19:56:00 I remember many years ago people saying that new technology will cause unemployment. Say for example years ago a machine that took say 20 people to operate it now requires one who sits in a air conditioned office with 2 or 3 LCD screens in front of them and a couple of keyboards etc.
:)
Trev (427)
869305 2010-03-23 19:57:00 Previous governments have threatened to do something about the welfare system and when people start complaining and protesting, the government backs down and does nothing at all .

So I wouldn't be surprised that it doesn't happen at all .
Yes those people could make or break an election .
:)
Trev (427)
869306 2010-03-23 19:58:00 If it does come into force, National should be targeting those who have been on it for years and have done nothing to change the situation.

Also they need to sort out those who are claiming the Working for Families scheme when they don't need it.
Ice Road Trucker (15659)
869307 2010-03-23 19:59:00 And there were these things called SOEs . people were employed in things like the PO and Railways .
There was a Post Office and bank on every corner .
Now, there's nothing and the governments wonder why unemplyment has gone up so much .

Times have change, IMO people in all place now need to adapt .

Could many people get away without computers these days . . . . .
Nomad (952)
869308 2010-03-23 20:04:00 "More frequent assessments of people on a sickness benefit, with three medical assessments during the first twelve weeks, a further assessment every twelve weeks thereafter, and a more comprehensive reassessment after 12 months."


Let's hear them bleat about that.
But consider this:

It's appraisal time at work -that time of year where it's determined if I'm still worthy of the money given to me.
No reason why beneficiaries can't be subject to the same regular reviews....
Peterj116 (6762)
869309 2010-03-23 20:06:00 "More frequent assessments of people on a sickness benefit, with three medical assessments during the first twelve weeks, a further assessment every twelve weeks thereafter, and a more comprehensive reassessment after 12 months."


Let's hear them bleat about that.
But consider this:

It's appraisal time at work -that time of year where it's determined if I'm still worthy of the money given to me.
No reason why beneficiaries can't be subject to the same regular reviews....

The end of the Herald article "I think" normal beneficiaries may need to be assessed every year (in the plan). Which I don't think is a problem. If you eligible you get it, if you don't you don't. Simple. At most it is a 15min process. They should be meeting with their case manager on a regular basis anyway.
Nomad (952)
869310 2010-03-23 20:14:00 Socialist and do gooders rule,until the pendulum swings back,it will be so. Cicero (40)
869311 2010-03-23 20:37:00 Last time I looked, 7500 people were applying for 250 crappy jobs at the new Countdown..Every job I advertised I got 30-50 applicants ... and that was for IT jobs. So I was not surprised they got so many for the new supermarket.

It was just the "media" hyping it up, because this employer decided to do all the recruiting at once.
KiwiTT_NZ (233)
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