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Thread ID: 108306 2010-03-23 06:19:00 Welfare and taxes changes Nomad (952) PC World Chat
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869483 2010-03-24 07:17:00 The proposition fails on the count that there isn't sufficient jobs.

Successive Governments have crucified the small employer with costs and regulations so he/she is no longer prepared to take on staff.

Not many “One Man Band” tradesmen are prepared to take on apprentices or staff of any sort because of all the costs and red tape.

Among the many things an Employer is burdened with is the inability to Sack someone for non performance because of the stupid Employment Court, ridiculously high ACC, Maternity Leave, and on and on it goes.

The most people I ever employed was 15 but there is no way in hell I could repeat that under today’s regulations.

Maybe the Government should look at starting projects of their own where these people can be employed, because there is no way in hell a private employer would be interested in the majority of them.

Right, that's why a friend of ours, a builder, never employs anyone, no matter how much work he gets in....also why there is such a big "under the table" cash job society.

www.adoos.co.nz :clap
Terry Porritt (14)
869484 2010-03-24 07:25:00 I wonder how much the IRS loses in NZ from cashies, they sure are a big part of doing business here for small businesses anyway.Blardy had to turn down when someone has a fist of notes in their hand and they do not want a gst receipt. prefect (6291)
869485 2010-03-24 07:48:00 Trades people are just so easy. They offer to work outside their usual hours... Nomad (952)
869486 2010-03-24 08:00:00 Not just trades people, I've had small parts made/modified by local engineering firms, as I don't have access to a lathe nowadays, and the money has gone into their tea fund.
Then the odd job around the garden that I don't like doing, like going up a tree to lop branches, that gets fitted in at the end of the day as a fill in cash job. Everyone is happy, and anyway money goes round and round,with the IRD taking GST skims every time there is a spend. Makes one wonder there is any money left over :confused:
Terry Porritt (14)
869487 2010-03-24 08:05:00 Many years ago somebody I worked with did the math and announced that after 1 week a brand new $1 released into circulation had returned around $4.50 in tax. It probably earns a bit faster now. R2x1 (4628)
869488 2010-03-24 08:15:00 Right, that's why a friend of ours, a builder, never employs anyone, no matter how much work he gets in....also why there is such a big "under the table" cash job society.

www.adoos.co.nz :clap

With all the red tape and complaince costs, plus the number of employees who rip their employers off, I am not surprised.
The gov currently substitutes Mc Donalds to employ people, that should really be rolled out to other jobs too. I wouldn't mind hiring someone to do paper work for $6 per hour,and the rest paid for by the gov.
robbyp (2751)
869489 2010-03-24 08:33:00 I quite often pay for little bits of machining with a boxes of woodies. Not sure its illegal because sometimes the machinists says its free, dont worry about it not worth the paperwork so if I still give him 24 woodies has anyone broken the law?
I have an old lathe but its got too much play in the crosshead for me to use without stuffing the job up.
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prefect (6291)
869490 2010-03-24 08:46:00 I quite often pay for little bits of machining with a boxes of woodies. Not sure its illegal because sometimes the machinists says its free, dont worry about it not worth the paperwork so if I still give him 24 woodies has anyone broken the law?
I have an old lathe but its got too much play in the crosshead for me to use without stuffing the job up.
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One male giving another male a woodie is not illegal, but very worrying:blush:
plod (107)
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