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| Thread ID: 108306 | 2010-03-23 06:19:00 | Welfare and taxes changes | Nomad (952) | PC World Chat |
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| 869473 | 2010-03-23 20:11:00 | Each time the government does something there is a 50% chance they will do the wrong thing, a 75% chance it will be done badly, and a 93 1/2% chance it will be over budget. When the government attempts to undo something, the odds get MUCH worse. 97% of all statistics are ridiculous. |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 869474 | 2010-03-23 22:15:00 | The proposition fails on the count that there isn't sufficient jobs. Successive Governments have crucified the small employer with costs and regulations so he/she is no longer prepared to take on staff. Not many “One Man Band” tradesmen are prepared to take on apprentices or staff of any sort because of all the costs and red tape. Among the many things an Employer is burdened with is the inability to Sack someone for non performance because of the stupid Employment Court, ridiculously high ACC, Maternity Leave, and on and on it goes. The most people I ever employed was 15 but there is no way in hell I could repeat that under today’s regulations. Maybe the Government should look at starting projects of their own where these people can be employed, because there is no way in hell a private employer would be interested in the majority of them. |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 869475 | 2010-03-23 22:26:00 | Yup, true. I think it's about getting people to work for those that the employer deems fit or for them to get training. Rather than giving them a license to be on the dole. | Nomad (952) | ||
| 869476 | 2010-03-23 22:48:00 | Well said B.M. | tut (12033) | ||
| 869477 | 2010-03-24 03:26:00 | Each time the government does something there is a 50% chance they will do the wrong thing, a 75% chance it will be done badly, and a 93 1/2% chance it will be over budget. When the government attempts to undo something, the odds get MUCH worse. 97% of all statistics are ridiculous. You are spot on. :thumbs: |
bk T (215) | ||
| 869478 | 2010-03-24 05:49:00 | Of course not near the mortgage but given the same area, mortgage people may get a bit more than rental people (in the same area like Waitaki). I don't know, I never been a beneficiary with a mortgage. Its the SAME wheteher you rent or pay a mortgage. It makes no difference what your mortgage is, thats the MAXIMUM. Ok? People like you think they help, they don't. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 869479 | 2010-03-24 05:50:00 | The proposition fails on the count that there isn't sufficient jobs. . Yes. Not because they all love being on the dole. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 869480 | 2010-03-24 06:14:00 | Like I said I don't know never been a beneficiary with a mortgage. Now I know. All I am saying is if they can work, then they should, just like a regular person on the dole. If no job or they are not skilled they should get training to enable that. So IMO all people on the dole need to put the effort in. If it is deemed the are fit to work and they don't put the effort in, then their entitlement should be affected. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 869481 | 2010-03-24 06:18:00 | I am with you 100% Nomad couldnt of put it better myself old chap. | prefect (6291) | ||
| 869482 | 2010-03-24 06:28:00 | Re: the mortgage I am talking about long term on the dole, if such the property should be sold. There are people out there with a job and no property but then for a person on the dole to be on it long term and have the asset :rolleyes: They could use those funds to relocate if they wanted to. The dole is a privilege. I am not saying a dole person needs to collect rubbish I am saying if they deemed "fit" to be employed or if they want to get into that type of occupation they can get training. If a place has no jobs, just sitting there for the rest of their lives is not an option IMO. Yes. Not because they all love being on the dole. Cool then they got nothing to worry about, they are supported to get back into the workforce. |
Nomad (952) | ||
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