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Thread ID: 108299	2010-03-23 01:21:00	All of a sudden, I'm glad I voted National this time....	Peterj116 (6762)	PC World Chat

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869332	2010-03-24 05:46:00	Sad as it is, there is no going back to the days when much of the manufactured goods were made in NZ. Even the US complains about jobs going to China. What is sad though, is that opportunities to manufacture high value product (like helicopter gears) that other people would beat a path to our door to buy, went down the tubes at the same time as the run-of-the-mill stuff. "Picking winners" became dirty words AR (After Rogernomics):clap I remember when they tried to force NZ made Gregs, or was it it Bushells coffee on to us in the DSIR cafeteria aaaghh, but that was for cost cutting, then again everyone to their own taste :banana As regards moving to find a job, yes, for a bloke, but not so easy for a woman with children. I commuted for 9 months between home in Leicester and workplace Poole, going home at weekends, until I found a house, and before that commuted for 3 months between Solihull and Leicester again going home at weekends. It can be tough, as everything goes wrong at home whilst away, like burst pipes, or the children falling ill, but there is not much option if you want a job of your choice. The principle is,you do what you have to do to support your family. We are at the mercy of our politicians and the systems they force on us. We know ignorance prevails,just looking at the state the world is in,ignorance and greed have got us where we are,and now we must pay the price till the pendulum swings back our way.	Cicero (40)
869333	2010-03-24 05:48:00	It depends really how much you want to work, if you really wanted to work and you were unemployed in say Reefton you would have to move to get a job. And let's say you are on the dole. You are getting the dole because you are broke and unemployed. How do you afford to move? They don't pay you to. The moving allowance is about $200 - I asked them once. Typical crap from people who haven't been out of work. Yes eventually a job may come along, meanwhile you'd prefer to see people begging in the streets like in the last centuries or 3rd world countries. Don't answer that, you probably would.	pctek (84)
869334	2010-03-24 06:02:00	It all depends how much you want to get a job. I wouldnt need $200 to move from one part of NZ to another. I would crawl on my hands and knees across NZ for a job to support my family if required. Any way I got sick of working for people 15 years ago. The last straw was when I worked all night putting a gearbox in a truck for an important customer. Two days later I was 5 minutes late for work and the boss told me off. Ha Ha quit set up in opposition to him less than 1 kilometre away and took all his customers. He had a heart attack and died his wife couldnt run the company and it closed.	prefect (6291)
869335	2010-03-24 06:18:00	So it looks like those in remote areas, hey stay where you are, if after some yrs no job, stay there ... good luck. :rolleyes: If I had to move, all I need is a backpack and I am on my way. I pay rent anywhere in the country.	Nomad (952)
869336	2010-03-24 06:23:00	It all depends how much you want to get a job. I wouldnt need $200 to move from one part of NZ to another. I would crawl on my hands and knees across NZ for a job to support my family if required. Any way I got sick of working for people 15 years ago. The last straw was when I worked all night putting a gearbox in a truck for an important customer. Two days later I was 5 minutes late for work and the boss told me off. Ha Ha quit set up in opposition to him less than 1 kilometre away and took all his customers. He had a heart attack and died his wife couldnt run the company and it closed. Well done Pre,like you I don't think anybody owes me a living.	Cicero (40)
869337	2010-03-24 08:00:00	If we want the un-employed and the under employed to work, then there have got to be jobs for them - if there are no jobs- then we cannot expect them to find work. The New Zealand economy has 74% of the workforce in the service sector - unless those in the service sector are doing services that are earning foreign funds, then they are not really helping to grow the real wealth making part of the economy. The domestic service sector can in some ways be likened to an overhead - ie what it contibutes to growing national wealth is limited. There is a limit to the numbers of shop assistants, waiters, taxi drivers, lawyers, accountants ( sorry I omitted civil servants) etc that a country of 4.3 million needs. So nobody wishes to buy NZ goods - well where are the overseas funds going to come from to pay for a growing consumption of imported goods for an increasing population? There is a limit to what the agricultural, forestry manufacturing for export and Tourism can generate in verseas earnings. Well market forces and are can sorting the NZ persistent balance of payments situation. If a country consistently spends more overseas than it earns - then the currency is devalued - that curbs imported goods consumption.	KenESmith (6287)
869338	2010-03-24 08:19:00	Market forces don't even help the market, unless some determined ass kicking is administered from without. Either that or the last few months were just a sneaky communist plot. ;)	R2x1 (4628)
869339	2010-03-24 08:22:00	Single mums having kids. After the first one they should be warned that if they have any more they will be sterilized. :) Good try!:D If it was a pet you would get it fixed, so why so many single Mums for some it's lack of leg crossing, for others it's a way of getting more from the DPB so they don't have to work Probably the majority belong to the latter.	bk T (215)
869340	2010-03-24 08:30:00	Good thing I've got a valid reason to be on it then. And I dont drink, drive or take drugs Drink, drive or take drugs, what has that to do with benefits?	SolMiester (139)
869341	2010-03-24 08:33:00	Absolutely. Blame the other government for the crap economy. They are no different. Bludgers will always exist. So lump all beneficiaries in with them. Amazing how so many people think all of them are having a great time, rolling in money, sitting around at the pub or such. Crap. And single parents with 6 year olds should work too? WHo pays the childcare? Oh of course, they pay it out of their huge wages. And what jobs? I still can't get one. Last time I looked, 7500 people were applying for 250 crappy jobs at the new Countdown. Idiots with no direct experience of having to scrape in every last cent should shut up and count themselves lucky they are not in this situation. Yet. AFAIK, 6 yr olds should be in school, so no daycare required, what jobs?, you have a point down in invercargill, however that is a small % of the country.	SolMiester (139)
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