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Thread ID: 108620 2010-04-05 04:05:00 Discussion: Why fibre to the door? Chilling_Silence (9) PC World Chat
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873043 2010-04-05 08:44:00 In my opinion that was nicely and well debated Somebody.

I still wait for Chill to come up with a response to my "bottleneck" post and who pays which I think is a reasonable analogy in my humble opinion.
Sweep (90)
873044 2010-04-05 08:44:00 Any body knows why?

$$$$$$
somebody (208)
873045 2010-04-05 08:48:00 with telecom/chorus upgrading/installing newer and bigger cabinets( one 50 meters from my house), will they have to supply new routers or will we have to buy them? GameJunkie (72)
873046 2010-04-05 08:49:00 A chain is only as strong as its weakest link - in my case, and I believe many others, the weakest link is my ISP's connection via Southern Cross to the USA.

The government should be encouraging Sam Morgan et al.

It's not the weakest link. The SSC cable is capable of more data than what your ISP buys from Telecom and other shareholders. So it's not the connection per se.
Sweep (90)
873047 2010-04-05 08:54:00 with telecom/chorus upgrading/installing newer and bigger cabinets( one 50 meters from my house), will they have to supply new routers or will we have to buy them?

What? If you need the faster speed then get a new bit of hardware.

I bought my own ADSL modem which means I'm not tied to my ISP as such.
Sweep (90)
873048 2010-04-05 08:56:00 ok. GameJunkie (72)
873049 2010-04-05 08:58:00 It's not the weakest link. The SSC cable is capable of more data than what your ISP buys from Telecom and other shareholders. So it's not the connection per se.

Agreed. I should re-word that.

My weakest link is that SCC charge so much for data that my ISP never buys enough.

Another cable to Hawaii should bring prices down, nearer to the level charged between Hawaii and California (where there are lots of cables and lots of competition.
decibel (11645)
873050 2010-04-05 09:01:00 Agreed. I should re-word that.

My weakest link is that SCC charge so much for data that my ISP neve buys enough.

Another cable to Hawaii should bring prices down, nearer to the level charged between Hawaii and California (where there are lots of cables and lots of competition.

It doesn't take much to scare SSC into dropping their prices - when the Kordia/Pipe cable was suggested, they dropped their prices significantly. It looks like something has prompted them to reduce their prices again: www.southerncrosscables.com
somebody (208)
873051 2010-04-05 09:20:00 Agreed. I should re-word that.

My weakest link is that SCC charge so much for data that my ISP never buys enough.

Another cable to Hawaii should bring prices down, nearer to the level charged between Hawaii and California (where there are lots of cables and lots of competition.

Thanks Decibel for the apology but it's more like what you can afford as you have alluded to.

In the event you need access to the internet you can use dial up for that.

Bit of a shame you can't use one phone line for both that and phone out at the same time or accept incoming calls.

Then when you get to a broadband connection you have a choice of plans but the advantage is that others can use the same landline without dropping the cannection.
Sweep (90)
873052 2010-04-05 12:06:00 Why is a bridge at Kopu being replaced. It is a bottleneck. But the taxpayers will cough up,

FTTH may remove caps or not.

Little different.
Imagine right now the bridge is owned by an independent 3rd party company, and there are other companies already building proposed alternatives. Then imagine that the Govt comes in riding on a white horse and wants to add yet another wider bridge, when there's already more than 1 replacement underway. Would it make sense?

FTTH will *not* remove caps. A move such as the Pacific Fibre cable will go a long way towards increasing the competition on per-GB data charges, which is where NZ's main bottleneck now is. The SCC cable has sufficient capacity, but it costs NZ too much to use it per-GB.

Adding Fibre to NZ won't change the per-GB cost, so we'll still have dismally small plans that simply cannot sustain all this HD content that everybody raves about as being the currently foreseeable main use for FTTH...
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