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Thread ID: 108569	2010-04-02 20:04:00	Racism in NZ?	bk T (215)	PC World Chat

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872325	2010-04-02 22:56:00	When I was overseas in Brunei .. I met a English tourist (a she). We just had a chat and we came to the conclusion that English tourist and a bit like AU or NZ that they go overseas to the beach to eat, drink and shop and no more, they are not interested in cultural activities and from what I heard from NZders .. they want home quality in foreign soil and some of them would even complain about it. A few of them go to places like Brueni. Most of them would not bother going off the beaten track. They stay in Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok, Hong Kong etc etc. They want their bacon and eggs, the beach, the american fast foods, they want it cheap and they want quality. They don't respect the local culture and walk around in flip flops, skirts and tank tops and the ones I heard goes to Brunei and complain how no alcohol is served and how you have to go stay a few days only just so you can escape it and get a booze fix.	Nomad (952)
872326	2010-04-02 23:02:00	Why can't some people or organisation just stand up and say, "I am (we are) racist" and stop being a hypocrite(s) - trying or pretending to be 'nice' person. I look down on hypocrites.	bk T (215)
872327	2010-04-02 23:23:00	Why can't some people or organisation just stand up and say, "I am (we are) racist" and stop being a hypocrite(s) - trying or pretending to be 'nice' person. I look down on hypocrites. It's simple enough bk T. It is against the law to discriminate on various grounds or at least make it known that you do. So if a company says "I want a white anglo saxon to fill ( job here )" it is likely that attitude will or could cost the said company in penalties if anyone took a case up. Most people discrimate in various ways but all forms of discrimination are not against the law yet. If I go buy a motherboard from Ascent I could be accused of discriminating against all the other places I could have bought the same motherboard for example. Don't tell me you make decisions without discrimination of any kind please. So is every person your friend? Discrimination is about the choices you make or the company makes and choices are made by all people every day. My choices may not be the same as yours but I would not get really upset if you made a different choice to my preferred option.	Sweep (90)
872328	2010-04-02 23:35:00	Don’t know what they’re on about? :confused: If an Employer wants a One Legged Dwarf that can speak Swahili then he should be able to advertise for one. That would save everyone else wasting their time wouldn’t it? Next thing the PC Police will want to take over all employment applications on behalf of the Employer. We’re only a breath away as it is. ;)	B.M. (505)
872329	2010-04-02 23:39:00	It's simple enough bk T. It is against the law to discriminate on various grounds or at least make it known that you do. So if a company says "I want a white anglo saxon to fill ( job here )" it is likely that attitude will or could cost the said company in penalties if anyone took a case up. Most people discrimate in various ways but all forms of discrimination are not against the law yet. If I go buy a motherboard from Ascent I could be accused of discriminating against all the other places I could have bought the same motherboard for example. Don't tell me you make decisions without discrimination of any kind please. So is every person your friend? Discrimination is about the choices you make or the company makes and choices are made by all people every day. My choices may not be the same as yours but I would not get really upset if you made a different choice to my preferred option. I'm referring to 'racial discrimination' rather than other kinds of discriminition or likes or dislikes - that's personal preferrences. Of course, those 'racists' have their freedom think /do what they like, what I don't respect them is that they don't have the 'guts' to admit what they are. Shame, shame, shame !	bk T (215)
872330	2010-04-02 23:44:00	And may I ask what happens if a person gets turned down for a job as they don't have the skills and assume that it was on racial grounds?	Sweep (90)
872331	2010-04-02 23:55:00	Each job has a diff style, not just the org, but the manager. Would a 35yr old manager want a 50yr old person who is very experienced? Those people even if they get the interview, would probably be filtered out ... I know b/c I have bumped into some HR documents .... one explanation was that, a person has too much experience and been a former manager may not have the skills of doing the job when he/she was been directing a job. You could be the best qualified person but you don't fit the style of the org. Obviously I have no idea what they are told if the applicant did ask for constructive feedback.	Nomad (952)
872332	2010-04-02 23:59:00	Nomad, You generally get told you are over qualified. That is not racism to help bk T.	Sweep (90)
872333	2010-04-03 10:17:00	Can I recommend a little bit of reading to those who are interested in the problems eminating from politcal correctness, multiculturism and unrestricted immigration, particularly from ethno/religious groups that have no wish to integrate into the society of the country they have selected to move to: "The Retreat of Reason - Political Correctness and the Corruption of Public Debat in Modern Britain" by Anthony Brown "The Poverty of Multiculturism" by Patrick West "Surrender: Appeasing Islam Sacrificing Freedom" by Bruce Bawer "Reflections on the Revolution in Europe: Immigration, Islam and the West" by Christopher Caldwell These are all serious works by reputable writers, without a racist axe to grind, the will disturb and hopefully wake up some, infuriate the masters of politcal correctness - but they are all a wake up call, to societies that have become too apathetic to care, until it is too late. The damage has been done in Europe, the problems become more serious as time passes. New Zealand is fortunate that it's society has by and large escaped what has happened in Europe - So far. In Australia we have a growing problem, it is not going to go away, the numbers of boat peoiple who are entering the country as illegal immigrants ( Asylum Seekers to the politically correct) is growing. These Asylum seekers having escaped from their little corner of hell on earth have passed through 2 or 3 Islamic countries ( where they were not at risk) before setting sail from Indonesia in unseaworthy fishing boats for Australia, theortically a non secular Christian country - where they will live on social welfare, obdurately refuse to integrate into the Australian society, and in too many cases abuse the country that took them in by joining embryonic jihadist and terrorist groups. We have already had several cases on attemted terrorist acts that have been thwarted by the security services. Well qualified immigrants who can contribute to a country, and wish to integrate into the society of their host country should be welcomed because they will enrich the society. Those who come to a new country with all the baggage of their past, and who wish to be apart from the society of the host country and have no intention of integrating into the society of the country should not be allowed to stay. This is not racist it is common sense.	KenESmith (6287)
872334	2010-04-03 10:40:00	This sort of thing happens all the time. Usually bad for the Asians, though. Like if you intend to teach English as a second language in some Asian country if you're a white guy you're more likely to be employed than if your are an Asian guy. I guess it comes down to the whole authentic experience thing? I wouldn't call this racism, more like stereotype with no malice behind it. I can certainly see where the employers are coming from, though at the same time I understand and know how the Asians feel.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
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