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Thread ID: 108760 2010-04-10 09:07:00 scary stuff lance4k (4644) PC World Chat
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874944 2010-04-10 09:07:00 Report says boy shaked baby and now baby is in hospital:

www.nzherald.co.nz

Boy can't be charged, wait for it, coz he is 13 years old !

Wow. So can a 13 year old shake any baby he/she wants and not be charged with anything? not even assault?
lance4k (4644)
874945 2010-04-10 09:10:00 tragedy.:dogeye: Metla (12)
874946 2010-04-10 09:11:00 Cant be charged unless its murder / manslaughter. So, he maybe charged if the baby dies Speedy Gonzales (78)
874947 2010-04-10 09:25:00 Sad. KarameaDave (15222)
874948 2010-04-10 09:56:00 Re: Wow. So can a 13 year old shake any baby he/she wants and not be charged with anything? not even assault.

Not just shaking babies.... as Speedy says - got to be homicide.
Scouse (83)
874949 2010-04-10 09:59:00 I wouldn't go and try it though Lance just coz the law won't do anything doesn't mean somebody else won't gary67 (56)
874950 2010-04-10 10:26:00 Wow....first thread of Lance's that I wholeheartedly support. qazwsxokmijn (102)
874951 2010-04-10 10:56:00 Have you got a brain lance4k?

Should people be charged with urinating in a public place when they are 5 years old?

At age 13 you should know various things but some 13 year olds know everything so we are told by you. You have gone on record as saying parents should not be charged for the sins of the child.

Note also the said 13 year old was left in charge as a babysitter and therefore who is to blame?

Is it the 13 yr old who was ( possibly ) not trained how to change a nappy or how to feed a baby. Was the baby screaming and/or crying due to having not being fed or sitting in its own poo or urine? I assume the 13 yr old does not even watch TV where he/she would have seen the advert where it says you DON'T ever shake a baby.

Was it the parent(s) who left the defenceless child in charge of a ( possibly ) untrained person who are to blame for this outcome?

Personally I don't know what actually happend or why it happend and I don't KNOW who is to blame. I do know it's useless to speculate however.

If you don't like the law then get it changed. As far as I see it the law should be changed to put the Parents in there as well.

But you don't think the Parents are responsible so you have already said for the actions of children.

I could bring up previous threads you have made but choose not to at this time.
Sweep (90)
874952 2010-04-10 19:58:00 I think at 13 you are smart enough to know you handle the baby gently and don't commit violence on it.
Parents fault for leaving him with it or not, he should have some responsibilty.

He'll grow up to beat his own kids or something.....
pctek (84)
874953 2010-04-10 22:26:00 Metla's got it right here - it's a tragedy

But what were the parent's doing with leaving a 7 month old with a 13 year old boy?? That's the real question.

And did anyone notice the age - 13. Seems to me that's under the recognised age limit. Here's a little bit about the recognised age:


The legal age for babysitting is not specifically mentioned in New Zealand Statutes. The age of 14 accepted by the New Zealand Police and legal system derives from Section 10B of the Summary Offences Act 1981, which makes it an offence for a Parent or Guardian to leave a child under the age of 14 without reasonable care and supervision. A Child legally becomes a Young Person at midnight on the night before their 14th birthday. (S2 Children, Young Persons and their Families Act 1989).
Brooko (8444)
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