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Thread ID: 108765	2010-04-11 00:25:00	Should he be paroled.	Trev (427)	PC World Chat

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875068	2010-04-12 10:41:00	Nope, water bombing has been my most rebellious effort. If someone chased me and stabbed me to death, would you think they have something wrong with them mentally or be happy for them to be out on the streets again after only a year??? The whole problem, darkstar09 may stem partially from the fact that a percentage of the population of NZ do suffer from mental health issues and they no longer reside in mental health institutions such as Carrington, Lake Alice et al which is probably a good idea based on the link below:- www.peterellis.org.nz There's some interesting reading there BTW. Not only that, but you may also have to contend in your day to day life with users of mind altering substances ( legal like Alcohol and not so legal like P ). Then we have to contend with people who are normally placid but a number of factors build up over time and there is a snapping point. Even small things can and do set people off. In my case, about two years ago, on SH1 in Tokoroa they had done resealing and lots of loose chip lying on the road. Temp speed signs up 30 KMH where it was normally 60 KMH. A vehicle passed me and showered my car with said loose chip. Two lanes Northbound. As I know the area I knew it narrowed to one lane at the North end of town so I passed the person then stopped ( safely ) after it narrowed. The other driver could have driven over the median strip which was about kerb height but chose not to. I got out of my car to be confronted by a larger Guy than I was and I'm just on 180 CM high and around 94 Kg. At that time I also noticed the "Mongrel Mob" patches and my thought at that time was, "Oh dear." or other words which I will not mention here. We had a conversation and he apologised which somewhat suprised me. You, personally, would have no idea as to the state of mind on that day and time of the driver of the car you threw the waterbomb at and we have no idea of the state of mind of either the tagger or the offender. I agree that tagging or waterbombing is not an offence for which you should be dead at the hands of another person. But if the Tagger had been going about his legal business he would not now be dead would he? Agreed that the punishment did not fit the tagging crime. But how long would it take to phone the Police and get them to investigate?	Sweep (90)
875069	2010-04-12 10:49:00	OK. Can all PressF1 Members agree that the so called Justice System could be unfair in so far as certain evidence is very often witheld from a Jury. There was a trial going on today as to the running down of a person over a handbag. The Jury has been selected but the whole day has been put aside for legal argument.	Sweep (90)
875070	2010-04-12 11:14:00	Whether or not he will re offend isn't the point IMO, he committed murder, 1 year PUNISHMENT isn't rehabilitation in my book..even if he did us all a favour!	SolMiester (139)
875071	2010-04-12 22:00:00	Whether or not he will re offend isn't the point IMO, he committed murder, 1 year PUNISHMENT isn't rehabilitation in my book..even if he did us all a favour! Were you there?. He said it was self defense and I belive him.	Cicero (40)
875072	2010-04-12 23:05:00	Whether or not he will re offend isn't the point IMO, he committed murder, 1 year PUNISHMENT isn't rehabilitation in my book..even if he did us all a favour! Actually, it was manslaughter in this case. Given that so many cases that should be murder end up being prosecuted as manslaughter here, the confusion is understandable, but there is a major difference, that of intent. The knife was taken (foolishly) for self defence, and as Cicero correctly says, only those who were there really know what happened. However the self defence scenario is credible given his lack of prior form	laworder (12738)
875073	2010-04-13 06:13:00	Another reason why I really get rather annoyed:- Darkstar09 seems to think that there should be no consequences for a waterbomb effort on his part and the authorities should not have been called. Then I read this:- home.nzcity.co.nz If I had been following those bozos I hope I would have done something a little more intelligent and followed them. At least get a plate number which won't help if the car was stolen.	Sweep (90)
875074	2010-04-13 10:53:00	Actually, it was manslaughter in this case. Given that so many cases that should be murder end up being prosecuted as manslaughter here, the confusion is understandable, but there is a major difference, that of intent. The knife was taken (foolishly) for self defence, and as Cicero correctly says, only those who were there really know what happened. However the self defence scenario is credible given his lack of prior form Self defence doesn't involve chasing people down the road with a knife for spraying paint on a wall. The water bomb and the spray paint are pretty much even (minor) offences in that regard, however the water bomb is more likely to cause injury or death through surprise or evasive action. Never heard of anyone getting hurt because of paint on a wall. However, many of you think the youth in Auckland deserved to die, no one has yet suggested that of darkstar09 deserves the same end. So what do you see as the difference?	Twelvevolts (5457)
875075	2010-04-13 10:57:00	Darkstar09 seems to think that there should be no consequences for a waterbomb effort on his part and the authorities should not have been called. After reading all the posts here and in the other thread, I see good reason in the woman calling the police. I now want to know why the policeman didnt seem to be too worried. All he said was "Yea I used to get upto that when I was younger, but um yea just stick to cyclists and walkers."	xyz823 (13649)
875076	2010-04-13 11:13:00	After reading all the posts here and in the other thread, I see good reason in the woman calling the police. I now want to know why the policeman didnt seem to be too worried. All he said was "Yea I used to get upto that when I was younger, but um yea just stick to cyclists and walkers." So why not go ask the policeman?	Sweep (90)
875077	2010-04-13 11:29:00	Self defence doesn't involve chasing people down the road with a knife for spraying paint on a wall. The water bomb and the spray paint are pretty much even (minor) offences in that regard, however the water bomb is more likely to cause injury or death through surprise or evasive action. Never heard of anyone getting hurt because of paint on a wall. However, many of you think the youth in Auckland deserved to die, no one has yet suggested that of darkstar09 deserves the same end. So what do you see as the difference? You seem to have a problem in my opinion. Simple logic would tell you that the two cases are different.	Sweep (90)
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