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1147217 2010-10-24 01:30:00 Isn't a hacker a security expert? I'm not talking about the slang meaning of a hacker, I'm talking about what one really is. Nothing illegal. So a hacker go to a bank and says I can hack into your back and steal a hundred dollars and if I can do this you will pay me $10,000 to fix your problem which is pretty cheap to fix a hold in a security network. So am I missing something. lostsoul62 (16011)
1147218 2010-10-24 01:41:00 You're missing something. Take a look here (www.catb.org) - that's a nutshell definition.

What you're talking about is a penetration tester.
Erayd (23)
1147219 2010-10-24 02:20:00 Isn't a hacker a security expert? So a hacker go to a bank and says I can hack into your back and steal a hundred dollars and if I can do this you will pay me $10,000 to fix your problem which is pretty cheap to fix a hold in a security network. .
A security expert is hired to test for weaknesses and plug them.

Someone who asks for money to fix the weakness he found without being asked is an extortionist.

I have no idea what a penetration tester is but it doesn't sound like something for a family forum.
pctek (84)
1147220 2010-10-24 03:33:00 [QUOTE=Erayd;960370]You're missing something. Take a look here (www.catb.org) - that's a nutshell definition.

Thanks that's a great article and I book mark it. I've allway been into hardware, software, and networks and never thought anything about hackers. But the article clears a lot of things up.
lostsoul62 (16011)
1147221 2010-10-24 04:00:00 Isn't a hacker a security expert? I'm not talking about the slang meaning of a hacker, I'm talking about what one really is . Nothing illegal . So a hacker go to a bank and says I can hack into your back and steal a hundred dollars and if I can do this you will pay me $10,000 to fix your problem which is pretty cheap to fix a hold in a security network . So am I missing something .

What your really talking about is a "White hats"

White Hat hacker - Often was a black hat but now works testing security holes for companies etc "earning" money legally .

The traditional hackers are known as "Black Hats" they hack to steal or be malicious .

"Grey hats" generally pretend they are white hats, but also use there tellant and often inside knowledge to steal .


Really you would class all good hackers as security experts yes .
Battleneter2 (9361)
1147222 2010-10-24 05:35:00 A lot are called script kiddies too. Snorkbox (15764)
1147223 2010-10-24 07:51:00 A security expert is hired to test for weaknesses and plug them.

Someone who asks for money to fix the weakness he found without being asked is an extortionist.

I have no idea what a penetration tester is but it doesn't sound like something for a family forum.
Grubby mind you have there pctek.:D
mikebartnz (21)
1147224 2010-10-24 08:15:00 I like at the end of the link that Erayd shared that basically sums it up well by saying that it's a discipline and an attitude that must be self-taught. It's humility, a drive for knowledge, and I believe even RMS even said it's a "Playful desire to understand the unknown" or something to that effect.

Look up this movie:
www.imdb.com
It'll give you a bit of an insight into the history and culture :)
Chilling_Silence (9)
1147225 2010-10-24 08:21:00 I have no idea what a penetration tester is but it doesn't sound like something for a family forum.
:lol:
jareemon (5207)
1147226 2010-10-24 08:50:00 looks like i'm under the creative hacker lot. nothing evil, just filling time! I know some of them crackers though :x The Error Guy (14052)
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