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Thread ID: 108927 2010-04-17 05:50:00 When will streaming movies catch on in NZ? Greven (91) PC World Chat
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877475 2010-04-18 04:35:00 there won't be a lot going to ADSL2+ and most can't afford to

If you're on broadband, and you're not on a full-speed plan, there's very little difference between that and a full-speed plan in terms of pricing. In fact, Telecom don't offer anything *but* full-speed ADSL2+ plans anymore (With the exception of Big Time being a flat-rate managed plan).

IF you're on a slower plan such as a 256 / 128k plan, then you're not going to be able to stream TV, but that's because you're unable to financially commit for whatever reason to a full-speed plan.

Either way, that's not the ISP's fault for being kind and offering a slower plan to you, is it? ;)

For example, Maxnet offer 1GB 256 / 128k for $29.95
Telecom offer 3GB Full-speed ADSL2+ (up to 24mbps down) for $39.95
End of the day, that's not Maxnets fault that you can't stream video, is it? The customer chose the slower plan ...
Chilling_Silence (9)
877476 2010-04-18 05:04:00 if data price comes down the price for the higher speed plans will (hopefully) come down to an affordable level.
but even if you have a high speed plan, not everyone can get those speeds so your paying for a service you can't get.

if they want people to have streaming video then they need to make sure people can actually have lines that handle that speed and that the connection is not overpriced. currently the prices really need to be at least halved.
tweak'e (69)
877477 2010-04-18 08:52:00 Even 2mbps is *far* more than sufficient to stream a "SCENE standard" sized XviD file of 350MB in 40 minutes. The fact Telecom will have 80% of the country with 10mbps+ by the end of next year is more than the 75% of the country that will have Fibre in a decades time.

Most SCENE releases are VBR of around 1000kbps (video) & 150kbps (audio). * 60 seconds * 40 minutes (for an episode) gives you 2760000, / 8 bits in a byte, / 1024 to get MB = 336MB (Just under 350MB).

Now that's standard compression with XviD, h.264 allows better compression at higher resolutions, but just streaming this for example, would be around 624x352 which ends up looking comparable to standard television.
Compress with h.264 and it starts looking better...

Yes, a *lot* of NZ can already get 2mbps, they just need to switch to the appropriate ADSL2+ plan ;)

However, you are right, price is a factor, but more-so for the per-GB cost. Base plan costs aren't likely to decrease any time soon. They haven't really in the last decade since Telecom first released the initial Jetstream back in the day. The difference between now and then is that the fibre backend to each Exchange / Roadside cabinet is able to handle everybody streaming video, back a decade ago it couldn't.

Hell, that's why Xbox Live didn't come to NZ for so long back in the day, because so many people were on 256 / 128k plans, and Microsoft deemed that it wasn't "true broadband".
That said, regardless of if you get 24mbps, or 3.5mbps (As I get currently, running off an exchange just over 2KM away), it's still far more than sufficient to stream TV, Movies, TiVo / CASPA and / or YouTube
Chilling_Silence (9)
877478 2010-04-19 00:21:00 ADSL2 is sufficient in many cases for HD but lacking the headroom for future multichannel services combined with broadband Internet access, not to mention utter rubbish up stream performance.

So basically ADSL2 is fine "Now" but will not meet the exponential increasing residential demands over the next 10 years.

Luckily the government is forward thinking enough to realise this and looking at Fibre to the door which has the additional benefit of eliminating the Telecoms near monopoly though there so called "wholesale division" lol.

As stated Data caps need to be eliminated or at least prices heavily reduced and thats the other 50% of the problem, and yep its Telecom controlling most of the capacity to NZ.
Battleneter2 (9361)
877479 2010-04-19 02:11:00 How long you been working for Telecom Chill? wotz (335)
877480 2010-04-19 02:20:00 Telecom can do a lot more a lot faster with the money than any other ISP or telco, so it makes sense to give the job to them, but I think the government should get a substantial amount of Telecom shares in return for their investment instead of just giving money away. Greven (91)
877481 2010-04-19 02:32:00 As stated Data caps need to be eliminated or at least prices heavily reduced and thats the other 50% of the problem, and yep its Telecom controlling most of the capacity to NZ.

Indeed.


How long you been working for Telecom Chill?

Ha, yeah right. I prefer not to work for larger corporates like that, so I can praise one in the morning and bag them in the evening depending on my mood ;)

Lets just say I'd consider myself well-educated :p
Chilling_Silence (9)
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