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| Thread ID: 109131 | 2010-04-25 22:55:00 | Helicopter crash | lance4k (4644) | PC World Chat |
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| 879916 | 2010-04-27 01:29:00 | I don't know what the airforces criteria is for maintenance, but just about every part of the helicopter is replaced after so many flying hours etc, so as prefect said it is probably netter than new. :) |
Trev (427) | ||
| 879917 | 2010-04-27 01:29:00 | If is highly unlikely that the helicopter was flying on a VFR Flightplan. The Airforce normally flies under IFR, and it is standard practice for there to be a full met forecast for the planned route in operations, when the pilot in command prepares and lodges his flightplan PS Virtually every other military force has retired their Bell UH1Series helicopters |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 879918 | 2010-04-27 01:54:00 | Nothing should happen, **** happens and this is just one of those things. And I so desperately want to block lance but dont wanna miss the day the mods finally kick him The aggravation isn't worth it. I've blocked him today. |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 879919 | 2010-04-27 03:10:00 | Some of Lance's posts are mild when compared to other contributors on this forum. Shame on you JC :( |
Zippity (58) | ||
| 879920 | 2010-04-27 03:27:00 | Mild perhaps, but it wouldn't be so bad if the theme changed once in a while.... [EDIT]: Without belabouring the point, the theme is: 1. Post a link to a news item 2. Make a statement about it (usually in the form of a troll) 3. Never comment again in the thread. |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 879921 | 2010-04-27 04:45:00 | If is highly unlikely that the helicopter was flying on a VFR Flightplan. The Airforce normally flies under IFR, and it is standard practice for there to be a full met forecast for the planned route Ken there would be appear to be more questions than can readily be answered at this point, the main one being what rules were infringed, and if any member of a professional and highly trained crew such as was on this flight was negligent. My personal opinion is that scenario doesn't have any credence. If an IFR flight, the MSA from Paraparaumu to the Wellington Control Zone and continuing to Newlands is 3000ft then stepping down from 8 DME or so to Runway 16. 3000ft altitude would not have resulted in this crash. If VFR, clear of the Wellington control zone, the rules are clear of cloud and in sight of the surface, with a flight visibility of 5km. Within the Control zone, a Special VFR clearance with a 600ft ceiling and visibility of 1500m is required, albeit helicopters can operate at lower minima given their inherent ability to be stationary. To a fixed wing pilot, the weather criteria would have been a no-go scenario. I think the ceiling at PP was 120m, which would have closed PP control zone. But in conditions like these, cloud tends to cloak all the hills on a direct flight path, and the only VFR route is around the coast via Sinclair. Time will tell. In the meantime my sympathies are with those remaining. :( |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 879922 | 2010-04-27 04:52:00 | ..........3. Never comment again in the thread. That is probably because it is more fun watching the wackos pontificate :) |
Zippity (58) | ||
| 879923 | 2010-04-27 10:20:00 | It most certainly sounds if there were IMC, so a IFR Flight plan would be the order of the day - also one should not go below safety altitude if there is no visual contact with the ground. The senior pilot on the flight was a 36 yo Flight Lieutenant, so he should have accrued at least 10-12 years operational flying experience. The cause of the crash may have been pilot error, it is also quite possible it may have been some other factor. From reading the sketchy news reports there is no mention of a mayday call from the lost UH1D. Only the findings of the Court of Inquiry, will tell the public what they believed happened from the evidence, and Courts of Inquiry are not the fastest at releasing their findings. In the RAF, Courts of Inquiry findings were treated as confidential, and seldom were the findings published in the public media unless it was a high profile accident with damage to non service property or life. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 879924 | 2010-04-27 20:14:00 | Nothing should happen, **** happens and this is just one of those things. And I so desperately want to block lance but dont wanna miss the day the mods finally kick him Don't worry, it's coming ... I think it is best to wait and see what the investigation reveals as to the cause of the crash. I'm interested to know this also, one of the men was my cousin (from my fathers side). There were 2 Pilots on the Helicopter All Military Aircrew maintain currency in Instrument Flying. Speculation on the subject of Pilot Error is out of line and premature. True, and it's my understanding that both my cousin who was co-pilot and the pilot at the time were well esteemed in their field and highly skilled pilots and military men. That said, everyone has their bad days ... Without a doubt though, Anzac day will be remembered in my family for generations to come. |
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