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Thread ID: 109073	2010-04-23 04:19:00	Who is attending an ANZAC ceremony this weekend?	xyz823 (13649)	PC World Chat

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879235	2010-04-23 23:05:00	True. Nothing much to celebrate about . I rather you guys help convince the jap government into admitting the amount of tortures and experiments that they did during world war 2.	Ninjabear (2948)
879236	2010-04-23 23:06:00	Not me. I'm not a pacifist, but cannot understand the mentality of people celebrating the acts of people killing other people in war. Besides, why is Gallipolli more acknowledged than any other battles in the history of NZ warfare. __________________ You obviously were not born in NZ then, what country did you come from? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ True. Nothing much to celebrate about . This Ninja is the most offensive post I have ever seen posted here you should be disgusted in yourself.	prefect (6291)
879237	2010-04-23 23:18:00	Commemoration is very different to Celebration, simply we are showing respect for those who gave their lives, so that we remain able to enjoy ours...little enough IMHO.	KarameaDave (15222)
879238	2010-04-23 23:36:00	WWI and WWII were largely about land, resource and regional control pretty much like every war ever fought in Human history. If any country is invading others for what ever made up propaganda reason, they must be stopped and that's what our men were over there doing. In both wars it was pretty clear the Germans were not going to stop in Europe. ANZAC day will "probably" end up being to remember all wars, this has been looked at recently and I believe will eventually change. True. Nothing much to celebrate about . I rather you guys help convince the jap government into admitting the amount of tortures and experiments that they did during world war 2. 10,000's of Germans were tortured at the end of WW2, funny cant see that in our history books anywhere, both sides do it its human nature!	Battleneter2 (9361)
879239	2010-04-24 01:40:00	You obviously were not born in NZ then, what country did you come from? As it happens, I'm a Kiwi, born in Wellington. Your assumption just makes you look more like the idiot you've previously shown yourself to be. My father was born in White Russia (also known as Byellorussia, and now an independent country known as Belarus). One quarter of all males in this part of the country were killed during WW2, either from the Germans or the Soviets themselves. All of my father's close family were killed during the war. More Russian civilians were killed during WW2 than, collectively, all the fighting forces of WW1. My father only managed to survive because he and a couple of his Polish friends managed to escape from a concentration camp near the end of the war, and made their way to a refugee ship on the coast, which made its way to NZ. This is where he met my mother. Anyway pal... give up on your so called "obvious" conclusions. I'm at least as Kiwi as most of us.	Greg (193)
879240	2010-04-24 03:17:00	I will off to the Wellington Dawn Service ^ x2.	Erayd (23)
879241	2010-04-24 04:24:00	I am going to Masterton's dawn service, along with my wife and her father - a Marine who fought at Guadacanal and other nasty battles against the Japs. Every service we think it will be his last... More Russian civilians were killed during WW2 than, collectively, all the fighting forces of WW1. The number of Soviet civilian and military WW2 deaths is horrendous - far more than the Allies. The number killed is still disputed but it is about like this: Soviet military had 8 million dead, compared to 150,000 USA. If it wasn't for the Red Army I believe the Nazis would have been unstoppable, including the UK. Of course the Yanks gave massive supplies to the Red Army which certainly helped them but the Soviets had one type of 'weapon' the Germans did not plan for: soldiers willing or forced to die, and die in staggering numbers. Then there were the millions of civilian deaths, which continued AFTER the war ended. BTW, TV1 News interviewed US Marines in full dress uniform collecting donations / poppy money in Wellington. Awesome.	Strommer (42)
879242	2010-04-24 04:55:00	My father was born in White Russia (also known as Byellorussia, and now an independent country known as Belarus). LOL. Ever heard of the Union State? :) Secondly, the Red Army was the only reason we speak English and not German. And secondly why is Gallipoli commemorated? It is the first time Kiwis fought in a major war. (Boer War dis-included because nothing much happened there.) ^Battleneter2, the victors write history. Not the losers. Nimitz was as guilty of "war crimes" as Donitz, Americans executed prisoners just as the Nazis, the Soviets killed 35,000 Polish officers. There were tortures and horrors on all sides. The Maori Battalion executed their prisoners also. War is hell. And all those who fight are damned, the least we can do is remember them.	Cato (6936)
879243	2010-04-24 05:39:00	True. Nothing much to celebrate about . I rather you guys help convince the jap government into admitting the amount of tortures and experiments that they did during world war 2. So, you think it is a celebration? One of us is very much in error	R2x1 (4628)
879244	2010-04-24 06:14:00	[QUOTE=Cato;901246]LOL. Ever heard of the Union State? :) first time Kiwis fought in a major war. (Boer War dis-included because nothing much happened there.) I bet the New Zealanders in South Africa at the time would have disagreed as Boer 8mm Mauser bullets whizzed around them.	prefect (6291)
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