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Thread ID: 109399	2010-05-06 06:48:00	Off topic: over-fanatic parking warden	hotkiwi (6379)	PC World Chat

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882800	2010-05-06 06:48:00	What do you reckon about this: I have to let my daughter out at school. Arrive there, very busy traffic, 8 empty disability carparks in front of the library that is still closed at that time so i stop there and my daughter jumps out of the car. Motor running, watching my mirrors to see if there was another vehicle that would want to park there. Want to drive away after these 15 seconds but a parking warden risks his life by jumping in front of my car. I break and ask him if he is OK. he fines me 150 $ for stopping in a disability carpark. I told him that I was not parking, but he countered that with the fact (in his mind) that stopping, even for 15 seconds is legally equal to parking and walking away from the vehicle. Who is mad, me or he ? Thanks for your input	hotkiwi (6379)
882801	2010-05-06 07:11:00	Last time I looked "Park" has a different definition to "Stop". To be parked you have to be stopped for a period exceeding 5 minutes.	Sweep (90)
882802	2010-05-06 07:16:00	Both wrong. The most dangerous places on the road I know of is outside schools where logic, common sense and the road code are abandoned and it's devil take the hindmost. More morons to the metre than anywhere else in the nation. Public flogging for even the tiniest infraction there might reverse the trend; it's worth a try. Either that or being struck off the Xmas card list.	R2x1 (4628)
882803	2010-05-06 07:19:00	Where was this? I know that in Wellington, the wardens are trained that parking, stopping and standing are synonymous - ie, stopping for ANY period is parking. And also in Wellington they are required to enforce mobility parks with zero tolerance. This includes what you described. I'm not saying it's right, but it's the law and is enforcable - so if you take it to court it is unlikely you'll get off. You can get away with stopping (attended) on broken yellow lines for a few seconds or a minute, but not a mobility park.	george12 (7)
882804	2010-05-06 08:10:00	Where was this? I know that in Wellington, the wardens are trained that parking, stopping and standing are synonymous - ie, stopping for ANY period is parking. And also in Wellington they are required to enforce mobility parks with zero tolerance. This includes what you described. I'm not saying it's right, but it's the law and is enforcable - so if you take it to court it is unlikely you'll get off. You can get away with stopping (attended) on broken yellow lines for a few seconds or a minute, but not a mobility park. was in Dorkland ;-(	hotkiwi (6379)
882805	2010-05-06 08:32:00	I think you will find that while it might seem unfair, some cities have a zero tolerance for parking in handicapped zones which includes stopping to let the children out. While maybe not parking in the true sense of the word, you were stopped, even for 15 seconds in a handicapped park. Various regions also have purges using both Parking Wardens and / or Police to blitz a area at and near schools from time to time catching everything from double parking, no WOF's, no seatbelts, and everything in between. Might have just been your unlucky day.....maybe they were targeting parking around that school.	PinoyKiw (9675)
882806	2010-05-06 08:32:00	Ah, in that case I can't tell you anything for certain. However I would say that while morally you are clearly doing no wrong to anybody, I suspect they probably have every right to ticket you anyway for breaking the law, even though it's pedantic.	george12 (7)
882807	2010-05-06 08:48:00	Looks like a parking warden doing his duty, if they were not there it would be chaos on the streets. Disability parks are for disabled people. Use a bus.	prefect (6291)
882808	2010-05-06 08:59:00	The problem is lack of common sense and slavish adherence to rules by frustrated power tripping minions/morons.	zqwerty (97)
882809	2010-05-06 10:33:00	You've been shafted by the difference between the Road Code and the Land Transport Rules. The Land Transport Rules are specific "Without limiting subclause (1), a driver or person in charge of a vehicle must not stop, stand, or park the vehicle in any parking area reserved for disabled persons unless— * (a) the driver or any passenger is disabled; and * (b) an approved disabled person’s parking permit is prominently displayed in the vehicle." The Road Code despite mentioning stopping in relation to some other signs only refers to parking when talking about disability signs "Parking areas with the sign shown below are set aside to give mobility parking permit holders easy access to places such as supermarkets, libraries and community centres. To park here you must display a mobility parking permit on your front window. Otherwise, you may be fined or have your vehicle towed away."	PaulD (232)
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