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| Thread ID: 109378 | 2010-05-05 23:49:00 | What is made in NZ? | bk T (215) | PC World Chat |
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| 882562 | 2010-05-06 03:50:00 | We could have had a closed economy , that would have kept all manufacturing in NZ . NO IMPORTS ALLOWED . Just like Russia tried . no, wait, vauge memories of the 1970's coming back, I want my poorly manufactured, allready obselete goods . Lets not allow FM Radio Stations as no local manufacterer was making FM radio's . Waiting list for imported cars . Heck No cellphones . NO LCD TV's . No modern medical equipment . Cars that cost 2x the price . No cheap car imports so most of the population drive old dunga's . A good pair of Jeans costing $100 (compared to $25 now) -lets blame the government for the fact that most consumer goods worldwide an Asian made at a fraction of the price, with quality steadily getting better We have moved from one extreme to another, but remember that most countries, including Australia and USA have tarrifs and do offer protection for local manufacturing . Some of those things you mention, we could do without, or handle paying more for, as the true cost is actually higher . It is just because they are manufactured in artifcally low wage economies that aren't sustainable longterm, but over time as their standard of living increases, the prices will go up . These days these things are so cheap, that instead of repairing them, we replace them, which has made our society a throw away one, and is one reason for the eco problems we now face . You do pay more for quality, and you do get what you pay for . Much of what is now imported into NZ, is cheap chinese rubbish, which ends up in our landfills after a few short years . |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 882563 | 2010-05-06 03:52:00 | It doesn't have to be a on/off switch sroby, NZ should have left some tariffs protecting specific manufacturing industries . NZ is VERY similar to most OECD countries and manufactures very little as its so much cheaper to do it in China . QUOTE=sroby;905515]beneficiaries, lots of them Exporting them to Aus is getting harder & harder . Thats largely a Aussie myth I don't buy into, kiwis contribute a huge amount to the Aussie economy and culturally we are nearly identical . [/QUOTE] Interesting to see that unemployment has dropped in NZ . I suspect there has been a large amount of people who have moved to Oz and other countries in the last few months . |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 882564 | 2010-05-06 03:59:00 | Interesting to see that unemployment has dropped in NZ. I suspect there has been a large amount of people who have moved to Oz and other countries in the last few months. yea umm no, "Employment" rose by about 19,000 in the last quarter. So to recap NZ unemployment is less than 1% behind Aussies. You do know NZ and Aussie population have been growing at nearly an identical percentage for the last 100 years which includes the last decade? |
Battleneter2 (9361) | ||
| 882565 | 2010-05-06 04:02:00 | Interesting to see that unemployment has dropped in NZ. I suspect there has been a large amount of people who have moved to Oz and other countries in the last few months. I wonder why. There's nothing here. Everything is way too high. Wages arent worth it. You can get more elsewhere. Why do you think places like Telecom and F&P go off-shore? |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 882566 | 2010-05-06 04:39:00 | Let the commie chinese manufacture cheap stuff that works, I will buy a commie 50mm ROE spanner over a german 350 one any day. Tarrifs are so yesterday its all about free trade now so run with it. Let the commies work for a few bucks an hour, Even commies need to eat and they need primary produce and raw materials. We can open up our National parks and start mining there is ****loads of good stoking coal on the coast Thats where we come in we do primary produce like food and trees very efficiently in this country. How come in Tasman the orchards cant get enough pickers?. There is only a limited amount of vacancies at Pack and Save and Burger King etc so if people want a job they need to get off their arse. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 882567 | 2010-05-06 04:43:00 | no, wait, vauge memories of the 1970's coming back, I want my poorly manufactured, allready obselete goods . Lets not allow FM Radio Stations as no local manufacterer was making FM radio's . Waiting list for imported cars . It doesn't have to be an either or . Other countries make stuff - and no I'm not referring to just the likes of Chinese cheaply produced stuff . The government killed of science pretty much, more research into biologicals and such would help . And instead of shipping logs, why not make something expensive out of it first? And export expensive cheese or something instead of just milk powder . . . |
pctek (84) | ||
| 882568 | 2010-05-06 04:45:00 | yea umm no, "Employment" rose by about 19,000 in the last quarter. So to recap NZ unemployment is less than 1% behind Aussies. You do know NZ and Aussie population have been growing at nearly an identical percentage for the last 100 years which includes the last decade? You did hear the news today. Unemployment has actually dropped from 7.1%, to 6%. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 882569 | 2010-05-06 05:29:00 | I wonder why. There's nothing here. Everything is way too high. Wages arent worth it. You can get more elsewhere. Why do you think places like Telecom and F&P go off-shore? Eventually NZs wages will be low enough in comparism for stuff to be made in NZ again, as these things go in cycyles. I am surprised a lot of manufacturing has moved from NZ to Oz, considering their wages are significantly higher, but they probably have government incentives, and produce a higher quantity, and the stuff is closer to the market. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 882570 | 2010-05-06 06:32:00 | One problem is that NZ does not make much, if anything, that others will come beating a path to our door to buy. There was somewhat of a chance to set up that back in the 70s early 80s, but any chance was killed off by Douglas. Back in the 70s, it was Japan that killed off manufacturing. The machine tool industry in UK all but collapsed because of lack of innovation, but it was firms like Taylor Hobson that survived because they were simply the best at what they did, and the Nips like Mitutoyo bought Taylor metrology gear in order to mass manufacture cheaper lower quality instruments. http://www.taylor-hobson.com/ Likewise they bought the worlds best 3D measuring machines from Leitz, Wetzlar, in order to produce lower quality cheaper machines that they sold all over. Now it is the turn of the Chinese, but countries like Germany and Switzerland still produce the finest machine tools that the Chinese and others buy, and paths are still beaten to their doors. Reishauer, who I used to have dealings with, make the worlds finest thread and gear grinding machines, nearly all of their output, like all Swiss manufacture is exported. www.smts.org |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 882571 | 2010-05-06 06:39:00 | Ah, but that is a different thread. | R2x1 (4628) | ||
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