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Thread ID: 109578 2010-05-13 22:47:00 maoris should lighten up prefect (6291) PC World Chat
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884694 2010-05-14 01:36:00 All your posts end with a :(.

Lighten up old chap!

Oh, you want me to be an a***hole and :) at the suggestion?????

Are you on "their" side? :D :D
Zippity (58)
884695 2010-05-14 06:07:00 +1

I feel "New Zealanders" who are like 25% (effectively under 50%) Maori and run around calling themselves Maori are effectively disrespecting there OWN heritage such as Irish/English/Dutch etc.

You can't cherry pick your heritage, you must celebrate all your Heritage which for most so called Maori includes European, and legally someone under 50% should not be allowed to legally identify as Moari.

+1 PJ.
Poppa John (284)
884696 2010-05-14 06:47:00 A joke that could be taken two ways, the maoris took it the wrong, unintentional way plod (107)
884697 2010-05-14 08:25:00 No one has the right to get upset at something that undeniably happened.

EG, if someone were to make a joke about how pissed I got on new years, I might not like it, doesn't mean I can carry on like that.

I guess what I mean to say is this: harden the **** up.

As for the heritage issue, AFAIK I'm all white, I go right back to William Hobson (my avatar), hell, that would give me more right to revoke the treaty than most anyone else.
ubergeek85 (131)
884698 2010-05-14 08:32:00 That's what bothers me as well . What constitutes being Maori? The older Maoris will have more ethnicity than the newborns of the last few years . By all means keep the traditions going . As someone NOT born in NZ my views have to be limited . However I do have children & grandchildren born here .

When I arrived here in 1964 one had to have 50% Maori blood to be on the Maori Electoral roll . However you could go on the European Roll if you chose to . If you had less than 50% you could not be on the Maori roll .

All these years later, how many can claim to have 50% or more .

Can any of us UK expats claim any other ethnicity than having a white skin? Where did mine come from? Saxon, Viking, Gaul, etc . ? Can I claim "Rights" from those modern countries? I doubt it . So get on with life, it owes you nothing . To those at the top of the Maori pile, I say, stop being so greedy & share what wealth comes your way with all the less fortunate Maoris .

rant Over . Sorry . PJ

I'm currently in negotiations with the following for compensation fro injustices against my ancestors .

Viking Scandinavia . Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland
France
Germany
Italy
Austria
Netherlands
Ireland
Scotland
Wales
Spain


I will be soooooo rich anyone want to share in my bounty? :thumbs:
gary67 (56)
884699 2010-05-14 08:39:00 Gary67............

Send my share to Nigeria.
Sweep (90)
884700 2010-05-14 08:49:00 Are you on "their" side? :D :D
Certainly not. But I just find it disheartening to see you always ending posts with sad emoticons.
qazwsxokmijn (102)
884701 2010-05-14 09:09:00 Gary67............

Send my share to Nigeria.

Ok send me the address and bank account details, and when I get paid out i'll remember you
gary67 (56)
884702 2010-05-14 11:18:00 Ok send me the address and bank account details, and when I get paid out i'll remember you

I'll send you my next Nigerian Email. :mad:
Sweep (90)
884703 2010-05-14 21:20:00 www.nzherald.co.nz
I am pretty sure Billy T wouldnt be happy with tuhoe having sense of humour failure if he was still alive.
maoris like making jokes about when their tribes dealt to an opposition tribe and they donged everyone on the swede and ate some of them.
When a white person says something like that he gets into trouble.

The "white person" part is irrelevant, wouldn't have made any difference if the Prime Minister were Maori or Chinese.

Head of the Government makes a comment about a party they're in negotiation with over compensation for stolen land acquired by way of a scorched earth policy and subsequent theft going against earlier legal agreements made with the same Government.

When you're in a negotiation about anything you have to be careful to be perceived as negotiating in good faith. If you give the other side an indication you are not really serious, it is a faus pas and damages your negotiating position.

The offence taken therefore is not so much about the quality of the joke itself, but the indication that the head of the Government party is not taking the negotiation seriously.

At the end of the day the comment by Maori Party MP Ururoa Flavell probably summed it up best. He suggested the joke was unwise given the current hurt but added "It's probably correct".
Twelvevolts (5457)
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