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Thread ID: 109518	2010-05-11 22:18:00	Death by Alcohol	Zippity (58)	PC World Chat

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884060	2010-05-12 00:38:00	www.stuff.co.nz One thing I find interesting about that article is how on earth the father worked out that it was equivalent to 75 beers. It clearly states (example) on a 1L bottle of Smirnoff that it is equivalent to 35 standard drinks or whatever the number is. Where did he come up with 75 from? From one of the interviews on close up with that young chick, she mentioned he had shared a bottle of Jagermeister, and when he went back to the party people where giving him more drinks. I have downed most of a liter of Vodka in an evening before with no nasty side effects, other that what you would expect (how did I get here and where are my pants). :p :D:banana	Bozo (8540)
884061	2010-05-12 00:40:00	From one of the interviews on close up with that young chick, she mentioned he had shared a bottle of Jagermeister, and when he went back to the party people where giving him more drinks. Ahh right.... yeah that would do it. :stare:	wratterus (105)
884062	2010-05-12 00:51:00	www.stuff.co.nz One thing I find interesting about that article is how on earth the father worked out that it was equivalent to 75 beers. It clearly states (example) on a 1L bottle of Smirnoff that it is equivalent to 35 standard drinks or whatever the number is. Where did he come up with 75 from? I have downed most of a liter of Vodka in an evening before with no nasty side effects, other that what you would expect (how did I get here and where are my pants). :p It was the Uncle. In the circumstances he's allowed a mistake. It is confusing. The liquor industry has targeted various price points with differing strengths of cheap vodka. You could drink a bottle because you've had plenty of practice and you're not a teenager or because you're cheap and it's only 20 something %. A change in minimum drinking age might reinforce that having a party with under age drinkers might be better than no supervision at all but it's still a stupid idea.	PaulD (232)
884063	2010-05-12 01:16:00	I have downed most of a liter of Vodka in an evening before with no nasty side effects, other that what you would expect (how did I get here and where are my pants) . Yes, but over what period of time? This kid drank it in just a few minutes by the sound of it . It also depends on how fast your liver is able to metabolise alcohol and that is a very individual thing and nothing to do with how conditioned you are to drinking . I metabolise very fast, in fact when drinking in the line of business for the purposes of providing a report on a police breath test machine sent to me from overseas I had a hell of a job maintaining a stable BAC for more than 20-30 minutes then it would start dropping like a stone . If the kid was a slow metaboliser that would have added to his problem and alcohol poisoning seems to have been the outcome . It seems that privileged rich kids steal and tell lies pretty much the same as everybody else, or possibly even more so because they think they are untouchable . Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
884064	2010-05-12 08:09:00	Toughen Up - it was collateral damage.	Metal Head (15597)
884065	2010-05-12 09:14:00	An interesting thread. I have to agree with a variety of statements so far: 1) Collateral damage - this will always happen now and then, regardless of the laws and taxes. 2) People are going to die, no matter what legal measures/rules are put in place. There's not a lot of point agonising over it. - Agreed. Death is certain, the only variables are when and why. 3) ...if the kid was a Pacific Islander in a garage in Otara instead of a rich white kid would it have even rated one line in the newspaper? - Yes, this is a sad double standard that genuinely exists in society, and in the media. If this kid got ****-faced and killed himself in a car smash it would be par-for-ther-course. We accept the daily death from drunk driving as society's norm. Particularly from male teens. However, the much more rare event of drinking oneself to death in a matter of hours is making headlines instead. I suppose the answer is education regarding responsible drinking. The best lesson would be if the adults in society would set a good example, and if the laws came down much harder on those who violate OUR safety through their drinking. As for me personally, I find Vodka has way too much punch. I steer clear of the stuff. I do have to wonder if it's colourless nature has an influence on it being consumed to excess (like it's water, which it resembles). Would a simple colourant have the psychological effect of making people more aware of their consumption?	Paul.Cov (425)
884066	2010-05-12 09:22:00	@ Paul.Cov Methylated Spirits has a colourant but people still drink same.	Sweep (90)
884067	2010-05-12 10:10:00	Should the "adult" who carried James outside and placed him in the recovery position be charged with manslaughter for not taking proper care? One can understand the parents are desperately upset and grieving - but there is something disturbing in a situation where only one person was responsible for this (the deceased) how the parents look around for someone to blame. The adult clearly did what he thought was right at the time, turns out he might have done more to save him, but in no way is any fault attributable to him. The victim reflex is so strong here in New Zealand right now that even where there is no crime, people try hard to find one so they can blame someone.	Twelvevolts (5457)
884068	2010-05-12 10:13:00	@ Paul.Cov Methylated Spirits has a colourant but people still drink same. Saw a guy drinking Meths outside District Court Number 1 one day, try convincing him that prohibition (or adding poison for that matter) works as a preventative strategy.	Twelvevolts (5457)
884069	2010-05-12 10:32:00	This sort of thing happens once in a while. I blame the fact that the kid probably just did not know what too much alcohol in one sitting can potentially do, simple as that. When I was 16/17 I got drunk so bad....was off my face, couldn't remember most of what happened the night before, apparently said some funny/highly embarrassing stuff and had a hangover that lasted the whole day the next day. Ever since that day I've never been drunk like that, but I still drink once in a while, sometimes causing a hangover the next day, but nothing like the above. I know what too much alcohol in one sitting can do, so I stop when I feel something is about to come off. :p Nowadays I (borderline) enjoy sober driving some of my hilarious mates. They do/say the silliest things when off their face. Friend 1: you SURE you're sober to drive??! Me: yes, I only had one bourbon Friend 1: whateves, you liar. What's 57+2? Me: (thinking he's just being ridiculous/trying to be funny) oh **** just ST*U and get in the car Friend 1: JUST ANSWER IT MAN!!! Friend 2: **** man, it's 60!!!!	qazwsxokmijn (102)
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