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Thread ID: 109518	2010-05-11 22:18:00	Death by Alcohol	Zippity (58)	PC World Chat

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884050	2010-05-11 23:44:00	I use to drink alot when I was young, but never got so drunk as not to remember anything as I use to get sick and vomit, before I could get that far. Read Here. (www.nzherald.co.nz) I think the main reason there is a drinking culture among kids is because alcohol is so readily availible. When I was a kid the drinking age was 21 and I think you could only buy alcohol from pubs bottle stores which shut at 6 oclock. :)	Trev (427)
884051	2010-05-11 23:48:00	This might shock the **** out of you, but I had a good time in my youth getting blind drunk. I drunk with a fantastic group of friends some who would do amazingly funny things at parties and pubs which they never do sober. There were causalitys just like bungy jumping. It was all about fun and comradeship which isn't so important these days. Remember the facts in this case before going off half cocked on restrictions and control The kid was only 16 The kid stole the piss The kid told lies The kid hoovered the bottle of piss down The kid didnt spew the piss up like normally happens And another thing if the kid was a Pacific Islander in a garage in Otara instead of a rich white kid would it have even rated one line in the newspaper?	prefect (6291)
884052	2010-05-12 00:08:00	Should the "adult" who carried James outside and placed him in the recovery position be charged with manslaughter for not taking proper care? No, thats madness. If the "child" ran in front of a bus, and then died from his injuries would you then want any adults who may have helped him to be charged with manslaughter? The boy did this, no one else.	Metla (12)
884053	2010-05-12 00:09:00	My opinion is that it is no one elses fault but that kids. No one is responsible for your actions except you. Just like that girl (if I recall correctly) who had more than a couple drink driving convictions, but she decided to drive under the influence again. The end result was that she killed herself in a car crash. Her tearful mother said on tv it was the court's fault for not confiscating her car, that it was the government's fault for not raising the drinking age, that it was the school's fault for not educating about the dangers of drinking and driving. I know it is a terrible thing to lose your child, but the blame cannot be placed on anyone else.	utopian201 (6245)
884054	2010-05-12 00:11:00	To a point it's a cultural thing: en.wikipedia.org	pctek (84)
884055	2010-05-12 00:15:00	And on the other hand everyone's complaining that society is being wrapped in cotton wool. Once again Metla has nailed it in one. It's because 'everything' is made safe by well-intentioned idiots that the "Is it safe?" thought never enters the minds of many young people. They EXPECT it to be safe, because they often get very little exposure to things that are NOT safe these days. I look at these types of news reports with sadness for the family and friends of the victim, but think of it like the road toll. People are going to die, no matter what legal measures/rules are put in place. There's not a lot of point agonising over it. It's life. Take some personal responsibility for your own life and get on with it. Stop worrying about trying to run other people's lives for them, because they're going to make their own decisions anyway (right or wrong - which can be subjective).	johcar (6283)
884056	2010-05-12 00:24:00	A tragic early end to a young life once again. We all look for someone to blame when things like this happen. A law change would not do anything as legally he was underage to buy alcohol anyway. Education does not work as we are all warned about the dangers of drugs, smoking, stranger danger etc.	Sweep (90)
884057	2010-05-12 00:31:00	A tragic early end to a young life once again. We all look for someone to blame when things like this happen. A law change would not do anything as legally he was underage to buy alcohol anyway. Education does not work as we are all warned about the dangers of drugs, smoking, stranger danger etc. The law change that some want is a minimum drinking age as well as a purchasing age.	PaulD (232)
884058	2010-05-12 00:36:00	www.stuff.co.nz One thing I find interesting about that article is how on earth the father worked out that it was equivalent to 75 beers. It clearly states (example) on a 1L bottle of Smirnoff that it is equivalent to 35 standard drinks or whatever the number is. Where did he come up with 75 from? I have downed most of a liter of Vodka in an evening before with no nasty side effects, other that what you would expect (how did I get here and where are my pants). :p Proper education is needed though, johcar is right. Sounds like the kid may have had a bit of a sheltered upbringing and didn't know exactly what he was getting himself into?	wratterus (105)
884059	2010-05-12 00:36:00	The law change that some want is a minimum drinking age as well as a purchasing age. But changing the law does not change behaviour does it!	Sweep (90)
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