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1457579 2019-01-24 08:08:00 This is posted for entertainment value as the science is a giant mud ball . . . . . . . . . .


The blood-red color of the moon during a total lunar eclipse may be difficult to explain without a basic understanding of orbital mechanics, but flat-Earth conspiracy theorists have come up with a way to circumvent scientific facts and construct a creative explanation of the phenomenon .

During the Super Blood Wolf Moon this weekend (Jan . 20-21), skywatchers in much of the Western Hemisphere saw the moon pass directly through Earth's shadow . Our natural satellite appears red during lunar eclipses for the same reason that sunrises and sunsets appear that shade here on Earth: because sunlight is scattered as it passes through the atmosphere .

According to flat-Earth conspiracy theorists, this astronomical phenomenon — known as a total lunar eclipse — was actually a rare opportunity to catch a glimpse of a mysterious "shadow object" that orbits the sun and occasionally passes in front of the moon from our point of view here, on an allegedly pizza-shaped Earth .

Although flat-Earthers believe our planet is flat as a pancake, they surprisingly seem to have come to the consensus that the sun and moon are spherical objects .

However, these theorists posit that both the sun and the moon orbit Earth's north pole, hovering directly above the pancake and never passing around to the other side .

If that were true, however, lunar eclipses as we know them could not happen, because the moon must be on the opposite side of the Earth from the sun for such an event to happen .

Hooo boy ---> here it comes -----> So, flat-Earthers fabricated a new explanation for the shadow seen on the moon during an eclipse .

In a post on The Flat Earth Wiki, a website run by The Flat Earth Society, the conspiracy theorists offer no description of the so-called "shadow object" — no details about its size, shape, composition or origin . But the writers claim that this mysterious, shadowy figure causes all lunar eclipses .

Oh, and it's totally invisible when it's not in front of the moon . (See! I told youse guys that the moon isn't there when you aren't looking . Same math - right?) "The shadow object is never seen in the sky, because it orbits close to the sun," says The Flat Earth Wiki .

Even though the tiny, innermost planet Mercury can be seen close to (and occasionally in front of) the sun, The Flat Earth Wiki falsely asserts that "we are never given a glimpse of the celestial bodies which appear near the sun during the day . "

If nothing else, The Flat Earth Wiki does give a description of the mysterious proposed object's orbit, stating that it's tilted about 5 . 15 degrees to the sun's orbital plane . Coincidentally, in reality, this is the angle at which the moon's orbit is tilted with respect to Earth's orbit .

The Flat Earth Society did not provide the mathematical calculations by which it arrived at this number, which seems more likely to have been "borrowed" from real astronomers' calculations than to have been derived from scratch .

The wiki additionally states that "there is also a possibility that the Shadow Object is a known celestial body which orbits the sun; but more study would be needed to track the positions of Mercury, Venus and the sun's asteroid satellites and correlate them with the equations for the lunar eclipse before any conclusion could be drawn . "

Astronomers have already charted the orbits of all the planets for the foreseeable future, and none of them will come in between Earth and the moon anytime soon (or ever) .

Clearly The Flat Earth Society's explanation of the lunar eclipse is flat-out wrong .

Email Hanneke Weitering at hweitering@space . com

SIDEBAR: What makes the moon turn dark and red? Find out at " . space . com/13748-total-lunar-eclipse-moon-infographic . html"" target="_blank">www . space . com


Me here --- again . What I don't understand is how youse guys can defy gravity and centrifugal force and youse can still cling to the earth while youse is hanging upside down . We need more math .
SurferJoe46 (51)
1457580 2019-01-25 03:44:00 I watch a lot of flat earth videos, mainly in fascination with the thought that anyone can truly believe it. I keep expecting to either find some good evidence that has convinced them all or discover it's all an elaborate troll and they got me.
So far neither seems to be true. If I watch one more moron explain how a spirit level and plane ride proves the earth is flat I may have to stop watching these in disgust. Then there was the group that tried to recreate the very good experiment with a laser beam and a boat that shows the drop of the earth over distance, they kept adjusting the beam to hit where they wanted it to and somehow convinced themselves that was ok. Here's some people doing it properly www.youtube.com pretty cool.

The crux of it seems to be believing what appears to be evident to your eyes as true and dismissing everything else as conspiracy. Except they fail even there. The world is flat because it looks flat yeah? so when the sun drops below the horizon and dissappears it's gone below the horizon because it looks like that's what happened yeah? it's the same logic after all.
But no because "perspective". And when a photo of a long bridge spanning over water shows clear signs of curve, that must mean the world is curved because that's how it looks right? nope, optical illusion apparently.

This has to be a troll, time to drop it and admit it surely right?, right? You got us, we really thought you were that stupid. Time to own up flat earthers.
dugimodo (138)
1457581 2019-01-25 04:18:00 You are the right people to ask this question:

How do they get a "flash" on the moon from a "rock", from off a meteor.

Ricochet !, no atmosphere on there to cause ignition.

Must have been red hot still.

lurking.
Lurking (218)
1457582 2019-01-25 04:35:00 Perhaps they are all a group of nice fellows, passing this out rather tongue-in-cheek to just (as herdsmen all say) . . . . . get your goat .

I can get behind that theory . . . . . they put this up as A Magic Christian, just to fool everyone else whilst they enjoy a good joke .

Gotta be the answer .

Just gotta be .
SurferJoe46 (51)
1457583 2019-01-25 04:38:00 @ dugimodo, If I watch one more moron explain how a spirit level and plane ride proves the earth is flat I may have to stop watching these in disgust.

Hmmm. I wonder if any of these nutboxes are IFR-rate ?
SurferJoe46 (51)
1457584 2019-01-25 20:33:00 You are the right people to ask this question:How do they get a "flash" on the moon from a "rock", from off a meteor.Ricochet !, no atmosphere on there to cause ignition.Must have been red hot still.lurking.I don't know but I'm guessing the energy released from a 17km per second impact is fairly substantial, any momentum lost in the impact would have to be released as heat and maybe light. A flash doesn't seem unlikely to me. dugimodo (138)
1457585 2019-01-25 20:37:00 Wouldn't there be impact-related emissions of energy on higher levels - like xrays and UUHF and microwaves, etc? SurferJoe46 (51)
1457586 2019-01-26 03:51:00 science.nasa.gov

Seems like it, thought the atmosphere was tooo thin. Presume the backside is the same as what we see from this side. China been there recently to see if things would grow and fruit flies to see if they would live.

lurking.
Lurking (218)
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