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Thread ID: 150744	2022-06-22 23:19:00	What's with all the fuss about Matariki?	Roscoe (6288)	PC World Chat

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1486983	2022-06-24 00:55:00	My long departed father used to, in his job running 7 seasonal warehouses, employ up to 150 labourer staff for 6-7 months each year. The biggest problem he had was, as his staff used to call it, was the "Maori day off" Ken Ha! Ha! Yes. I have heard that one as well. Used to take the occasional "maori day" off myself. I was REALLY sick! (Sick of work.):rolleyes: You would not be allowed to call it that these days. Racist. How ridiculous.	Roscoe (6288)
1486984	2022-06-24 01:38:00	No more holidays . Its getting stupid. Most dont respect what the various holidays where actually for . Its not a free shopping day . If we dont respect the day , why have it as a holiday. That applies to easter , xmas, Anzac, Waitangi How can it be a 'holiday' when so many are forced to work , just so we can buy a coffee or a pot plant. Or get stupidly drunk at the pub . I thought the 4 weeks annual leave was over the top. It just becomes an issue for employers having to find a way to cover staff's annual 4 weeks off Ahh, but isn't there an election next year? If you've spent all the available money that could be otherwise used as a bribe, another public holiday could suffice. No matter that there is still an enormous drain of our coffers if only in the form of its negative impact on GDP. Someone somewhere has to pay for it. Government has to pay its wage and salary bill, without any value returned. Industry likewise. White collar workers, the professions, it goes on. One of my neighbours is a courier driver. He works for himself. He still has his overheads and fixed expenses but he is denied an extra day's income because of a new additional day when his customers are closed for the day. As a country we just can not afford two public holidays one after the other. We could have waited until we really have no real need to celebrate the birthday of a monarch - it's only going to be 10 years at the outside before we have a soft reason. I don't have a problem with Matariki itself. It makes sense, much more than Waitangi Day, Easter etc. I'm a Royalist but personally that's only going to last until we get a Chas III. Mondayize Matariki, make it a moveable feast as is Easter so it doesn't lose any of its affinity to the lunar calendar.	WalOne (4202)
1486985	2022-06-24 05:50:00	Is MataRiki ...... MataHari's brother? Ken;)	kenj (9738)
1486986	2022-06-24 06:03:00	Yeah, it is entirely cultural tokenism, but maybe not before time. I was thinking about it earlier today... look at our 'special' days... Xmas - Honkie religon New Years - Honkie Georgian Calendar Easter - Honkie religon Queens Birthday - Honkie token leader Waitangi Day - Honkie taking over (under a veil of something more innocent) Labour Day - Honkie work patterns and subservience to the need for an employer (enslaving the masses in the honkie capitalist way of life).	Paul.Cov (425)
1486987	2022-06-24 06:13:00	Interesting, saw this on Stuff www.stuff.co.nz Being a doubter I turned on the TV and went to Maori TV just in time to see a little of a very intense program on Matariki, all about the traditions, the culture, the food etc. The presenter then said that in modern times Maori "......don't harvest like they used to in past times but now go to Countdown or Pak 'n Save for their food". All the while the TV screen was filled with a picture of a bright yellow Pak 'n Save!! Am I being cynical about this?? Ken	kenj (9738)
1486988	2022-06-24 07:08:00	Interesting, saw this on Stuff www.stuff.co.nz Fat chance. I doubt the churches wanted Xmas to come all about food and presents. Or easter to be about chocolate. But these things happen anyway. I won't be surprised to see Matariki Sale or whatever.... Or maybe supermarkets...as they say Matariki is about kai...well there you go. Bugger, I should have had fish and kumara today then. We had curry, lol	piroska (17583)
1486989	2022-06-24 07:33:00	What's this "new beginnings" bollocks the media is spewing	Beav (17610)
1486990	2022-06-24 11:02:00	Yeah, it is entirely cultural tokenism, but maybe not before time. I was thinking about it earlier today... look at our 'special' days... Xmas - Honkie religon New Years - Honkie Georgian Calendar Easter - Honkie religon Queens Birthday - Honkie token leader Waitangi Day - Honkie taking over (under a veil of something more innocent) Labour Day - Honkie work patterns and subservience to the need for an employer (enslaving the masses in the honkie capitalist way of life). You obviously are very anti religion. That puts you up against organisations that are in the majority of the world's population. Just because you have no time for church going does not mean that there isn't anything to it. Shows you how much you know - you can't even spell religion. "religon"? You have to be joking!	Roscoe (6288)
1486991	2022-06-24 21:03:00	Yeah, it is entirely cultural tokenism, but maybe not before time. I was thinking about it earlier today... look at our 'special' days... Xmas - Honkie religon New Years - Honkie Georgian Calendar Easter - Honkie religon Queens Birthday - Honkie token leader Waitangi Day - Honkie taking over (under a veil of something more innocent) Labour Day - Honkie work patterns and subservience to the need for an employer (enslaving the masses in the honkie capitalist way of life). Let me correct you Xmas - Honkie religion. Stolen from the Pagan winter solstice New Years - Honkie Georgian Calendar. Stolen from the Pagan Easter - Honkie religion. Stolen from the Pagan Spring fertility festival You see the Christians who are supposedly peaceful so long as you follow their particular variation of the fairy story have been stealing from other cultures and religions since the day they realised there was money to be made out of misery.	gary67 (56)
1486992	2022-06-24 21:31:00	New Years - Honkie Georgian Calendar . Stolen from the Pagan New Years Day has not always been regarded as the first day of the New Year . Many years ago the New Year began on March 25th . . britannica . com/story/why-does-the-new-year-start-on-january-1" target="_blank">www . britannica . com Pope Gregory XIII reestablished January 1 as New Year's Day in 1582 . So Matariki is not the only time, in the past, to have had the New Year other than in January .	Roscoe (6288)
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