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Thread ID: 109642	2010-05-16 23:13:00	NZs Reward for Low Piracy	pctek (84)	PC World Chat

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885603	2010-05-16 23:13:00	New Zealand has the fourth lowest rate of software piracy in the world after the United States, Japan and Luxembourg, according to the Business Software Alliance (BSA), but is not being rewarded with correspondingly lower prices for popular software. The BSA is an anti-piracy group funded by Microsoft and other large software makers. The study, by research firm IDC, estimated that 43 per cent of software used on the world's personal computers last year was pirated, up from 41 per cent in 2008, costing the global software industry US$51.4 billion (NZ$65.1b). Thirty-five per cent to 45 per cent was "legitimately paid for" and the rest was free or open source. IDC estimated that in New Zealand 22 per cent of software was pirated, unchanged over each of the previous three years. Despite the low piracy rate, customers are being charged 40 per cent more for some popular Microsoft software. Office productivity suite mainstay Microsoft Office Professional 2007 was selling for $1149 at Noel Leeming and Bond and Bond last week. The same software was on sale at Amazon.com for US$406 (NZ$568) and at British electronic goods chain Dixons for 321 (NZ$669). Office 2007 Home and Student edition was last week priced at $249 by Noel Leeming, US$99 (NZ$139) at Amazon and 69.99 (NZ$146) at Dixons.	pctek (84)
885604	2010-05-16 23:18:00	I read that :) Me thinks it's better now . Windows for many people come with the computer . Office for households could be $200 odd or even less I heard which is fantastic . Gone are the days when you used MS Word at school / work and come home to MS Works . When office were $1,000+ for the family, I know we couldn't stomach it . Or even $500 (for the likes of Adobe) . I still wonder about Adobe's s/w and others which is still quite pricey . These days you may find more people doing multimedia / graphic works .	Nomad (952)
885605	2010-05-17 00:25:00	IDC estimated that in New Zealand 22 per cent of software was pirated, unchanged over each of the previous three years. These numbers get thrown out there , & no one challenges them, simply as they make better news stories unchallenged. In NZ, I doubt that 22% of MS products are still being pirated. Thats every 5th PC has pirated Office or Win. BS BS BS BS (from what I see coming into our workshop) 10 Years ago piracy WAS rampant, its harder now.(still possible to pirate for those really determined, but requires knowledge many dont have) Same with music piracy. Blame poor CD sales on piracy, rather than facts : IE rubbish CD by particular brand, people having other entertainmenmt mediums to spend on that werent ther 20years ago (DVD's, GAMES etc etc etc) FACT: the most pirated movies also have the most DVD sales !! This has been going on for 40+ years now. Yet every year it gets thrown out there. Tape was supposed to being going to ruin the music industry. It didnt.	sroby (11519)
885606	2010-05-17 00:45:00	Well our workshop is different, we don't see many pirated copies of windows any more but ms office all the time. Even had a pirated version of nod32 on machine last week.	CYaBro (73)
885607	2010-05-17 00:47:00	From what I seen, I see that music and video are pirated. People have phones and iPods, they can share their songs. A person may have 2GB of just mp3's on their laptop :rolleyes: Dunno why many would pirate OS, it's included in their brand name laptop or PC. For some s/w they are already modified from point of sale. They don't even prompt you for any numbers. Some of them might but the activation has been rigged. Well maybe not in NZ that's more from the international side. When I was overseas 10yrs ago, you would see a shop selling auth. software in a mall and within 5m another shop was selling fakes. And guess which had the more customers .. I heard some shops even offered gaurantees. For small software and games and DVDs I don't see that too expensive.... One may buy a DVD and may lend it to friends or colleagues which is fine. IMO a popular sales DVD, game etc .. just means it is very popular be it bought, downloaded or whatever ... people want it given what avenue they take.	Nomad (952)
885608	2010-05-17 00:48:00	Well our workshop is different, we don't see many pirated copies of windows any more but ms office all the time. Even had a pirated version of nod32 on machine last week. Nod32 :D if they are that educated. They could of fixed their own PC.	Nomad (952)
885609	2010-05-17 00:57:00	IMO there will always be piracy. Despite what salary you may be on etc. If a mate / colleague provides it to you for free, many people would take it. They rather spend the money shouting them a beer at the pub or a favour. It's human. If you wanna see a movie or get it out on rental, they say, a legal way, they say, save you the hassle, you can borrow my (original) DVD for a week if you like. If your team members want it just pass it around and give it back to me when you done with it ... It's illegal. But for many, Office is just a stupid s/w that you do work on. Once it is installed it decays with the PC ....	Nomad (952)
885610	2010-05-17 01:42:00	rant follows (sorry) Most modern software requires activation. That was enough to stop/slow most of the rampant NZ software piracy, ie its now harder to load 1 copy of office on 5 PC's in the one company. And since 'major name branded' PC's dont come with an Win install CD we dont get the same Win license used on 5 other PC's. It also doesnt help when the retail stores untrained staff wrongly tell customers that Office Pro/SBE can be loaded on 3 PC's (hint: read the back of the container). There is so much public misconception re MS Office that MS only have themselves to blame for not making it really obvious-on the front of the pack- how many PC's it can be loaded on (usually just 1,some exceptions) Counterfeiting (go tradeMe) is another story, & possibly should not be called piracy.???? Its pretty obvious when 'new' MS Office Pro sells at 1/3 price on trademe, its not legit( here a hint: MS dont use stickers on their CD's). Trademe doesnt seem to care, I doubt MS cares either-from stories Ive heard when people ring MS about possible counterfeit product they bought. Just how hard is it for these HUUUUGE companies to buy one of these super-cheap Office Packs from Trademe etc & then prosecute the seller.	sroby (11519)
885611	2010-05-17 02:18:00	I'm feeling the pinch . I bought Office Ultimate for my PC which is great . Family's PC, how can I get Office in :illogical The Ultimate Steal only allow one computer . So I look for the home office edition then . Should of got that right at the start . Or maybe just flag it and use Open Office :p but it just looks weird . I can understand those who go to school or to work and come home they don't wanna use Open Office . Maybe wait for a special . Mind you when I was at uni, Office 1997 / 2000 was discounted, they rather buy more food and beer instead!	Nomad (952)
885612	2010-05-17 03:32:00	As always the losses$$ due to Piracy are heavily over stated . The assumption is someone that pirated software "would" have purchased it if piracy was not a option . With many around the world that pirate having low disposable incomes, or simply only wanting to have a look at a bit of software, chances are something like 10% of the total $$ lost due to piracy is actually accurate .	Battleneter2 (9361)
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