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Thread ID: 109756 2010-05-21 21:43:00 Wake Up Boy Racers. Trev (427) PC World Chat
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887026 2010-05-26 10:43:00 What I meant by that is majority of people at some point are going to be put in a situation where they are going to have to think fast while driving a car. Years of cautious driving with no accidents isnt going to help at all in that situation, its going to do the opposite and probaly induce panic hueybot3000 (3646)
887027 2010-05-26 10:52:00 What I meant by that is majority of people at some point are going to be put in a situation where they are going to have to think fast while driving a car. Years of cautious driving with no accidents isnt going to help at all in that situation, its going to do the opposite and probaly induce panic

That is twisted logic in the extreme, you are implying that if you have a lot of accidents then you will learn skills so that accidents can be avoided :lol:
Terry Porritt (14)
887028 2010-05-26 10:57:00 No that's not what I'm saying. Il put it as simply as I can.

A guy (21) goes around a corner a bit quick, the back of the car slides out, backing off the accelerator pulls it back in. He's now felt how a car behaves in that situation.

A woman (40) has always driven like a nana, she comes around the same corner, maybe its wet, maybe not. The back slides out slightly, she has no idea whats going and panics hitting the brakes. Obviously the car is under abnormal strain so its bound to lock a wheel or 2 or 3 or 4 and she slides straight into a parked car, gutter, person, whatever.

If they were both put into the womans position with their previous experiences, who is better off? This is purely in an accidental context, not drifting, skidding etc
hueybot3000 (3646)
887029 2010-05-26 10:58:00 On TV3 the other night, as a follow up to the young boy being run over by the out of control car, was a stunt driver showing how to correct skids that he had induced by wrenching the wheel over.

All well and good, but the item completely missed the point of showing how to drive so that skids and loss of control wouldn't happen in the first place with normal average driving.
Terry Porritt (14)
887030 2010-05-26 11:01:00 But like I said, majority will have an incident where they lose control. There's plenty of idiots out there that brake heavily and even with a decent gap between cars the following car is forced to brake hard to, but natural human reaction differs and the following car could skid.

SKidding on painted lines on the road isnt uncommon either in the wet, its simple stuff but I'm sure it could catch anyway out
hueybot3000 (3646)
887031 2010-05-26 11:08:00 If one of the parties drives round the corner at an appropriate speed, the back will not slide out - this is one way to drive. The other party can go too fast for the conditions as usual and avoid having an accident by skilful driving in emergency situations. (One will get to spend a lot of time at service stations buying petrol and tires while the other driver sails serenely past.)
Your version of who displays smarts and who doesn't may not be the universal opinion you imagine it is.

In aviation "the superior pilot uses his superior judgement to avoid having to demonstrate his superior skill".
R2x1 (4628)
887032 2010-05-26 11:14:00 But like I said, majority will have an incident where they lose control.

Then they should ensure they don't lose control. Drive to suit the conditions,the road rules, and your ability.

Try riding a motorcycle for a few months, Your attitude to what makes a good driver may just adjust with a little enlightenment.(IE-When losing control means instant pain, an excellent chance of permanent injury, and most likely a bit of death as well)
Metla (12)
887033 2010-05-26 11:17:00 Been driving for 52 years and still doing at least 25000K per year around Hawkes Bay roads, both city and country in my school minivan run. Then there is my private driving K's to add to that total as well - maybe another 5000K.

Never lost the back end of the car going round a corner in all of those 51 years!

I ain't a Nana driver either

Ken :rolleyes:

Edit: I agree with Metla about the motorbike thing. They really wake your ideas up in a big way.
kenj (9738)
887034 2010-05-26 11:40:00 sorry kenj but while your driving may sound perfect, you drive around here for any length of time you will loose the back end, front, do more emergency stops and swerves than you ever want to do. and that is with carefull driving.
wet slippery off camber roads filled with idiot drivers, you learn to dodge really quick.

hueybot3000 is quiet right in that most people just do not get taught and do not get the practice. when an incident happens they simply do not have the skills required, they are an unfortunate victim. while those with the skills and practice get to live.

a good example.....i was coming down the hill (not steep), wet road, taking it easy. come up to the corner, the traffic in front was stopped, so on the brakes, heaps of room but one wheel locks right up and with the camber and bumps in the road shoots me across toward the the other side. a quick off brakes and pull it in and back on for a full stop. no ABS, no stability control.

edit: hooning is not practicing defensive driving in any way. that gets you into trouble not out of it.
tweak'e (69)
887035 2010-05-26 11:51:00 Its happened to me twice but I was pissed both times once in Morry Oxford in a gravel road got into a slide and went through a fence whilst trying to grab some parts of my girl friends body
Other time going over Whangamoas in Ford XA ute nothing on the deck and it slid out on a corner but no damge.
Both times the slide had finished before I could do much but I was pissed.
prefect (6291)
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