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Thread ID: 110216	2010-06-08 05:16:00	Speedcamera Photo	coldfront (15814)	PC World Chat

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1108078	2010-06-10 11:59:00	In my view you are basing your argument on technicality of evidence . Were you in the drivers seat? Dunno hence the photo request Did you speed? Not as far as I am concerned hence the challenge to accurate information based on technology used You said it was incorrect on both counts then you said you "may" of been in due care with the seller selling it? Which is it? Transfer of ownership and authorised parties using vehicle I been driving for since 1995 and I had no ticket ever, surely cannot be that hard . Congratualtions I have been drivng since 1988 and the first ticket issued, Not a saint or nana just have had the benefit of Police Officers recognising the driving ability when and indiscretion has occured Money issue or otherwise . Instead of issuing fines is there a better method? I like to hear it . If you abolish fines would education work? Do we introduced community service instead of fines? Take their cars away? Yes there is better option for one demerit points for Speed Camera photos, second more visible policing on the roads, zero tolerance on deliberate excessive speed over prolonged distances, less reliance on covert technology and option of driver re-training . But also stricter standards and checking of speedometer calibration thru the WOF system .	coldfront (15814)
1108079	2010-06-10 12:27:00	But also stricter standards and checking of speedometer calibration thru the WOF system . How expensive do you want the warrant to be? The standard for speedometers allows for reporting higher speeds than actual with no tolerance for under reporting . In my case at an indicated 50 a roadside display reads 46, I don't trust those displays to be 100% but it shows that I'd be more likely to be under the camera limits unless deliberately speeding .	PaulD (232)
1108080	2010-06-10 20:54:00	Yes there is better option for one demerit points for Speed Camera photos, second more visible policing on the roads, zero tolerance on deliberate excessive speed over prolonged distances, less reliance on covert technology and option of driver re-training. But also stricter standards and checking of speedometer calibration thru the WOF system. LOL. So no money fines but just demerit points, some people may just wack up the points cos they know they won't be financially penalised but at most just a telling off. And, when theri points are high then they learn to behave for the next yr or so until the points are reset. May I suggest you start lobbying. But lol, just cos you didn't see your own face on it you have doubts it was you, haha. I dunno but don't they give you the date and time :confused: I bet many more people won't have their face on it. Maybe they should all be excused too, ROFL.	Nomad (952)
1108081	2010-06-10 20:56:00	How expensive do you want the warrant to be? The standard for speedometers allows for reporting higher speeds than actual with no tolerance for under reporting . In my case at an indicated 50 a roadside display reads 46, I don't trust those displays to be 100% but it shows that I'd be more likely to be under the camera limits unless deliberately speeding . My experience about the same, my speedo is about 3 or 4km faster than my quoted GPS indicated speed . So if you are using the speedo, you would have to speed 3-4km over plus the 5km Police threshold before you get ticketed .	Nomad (952)
1108082	2010-06-10 21:14:00	Most speedos are optimistic and over-read. All you have to do is check your speedo against a gps or one of those speed signs. If you one of these unlucky people with an over-reading speedo man up if you havent checked it against one of these signs and take the consequences.	prefect (6291)
1108083	2010-06-11 05:25:00	LOL . So no money fines but just demerit points, some people may just wack up the points cos they know they won't be financially penalised but at most just a telling off . And, when theri points are high then they learn to behave for the next yr or so until the points are reset . You missread! But I make it clearer for you, the same penalty for being stopped by a cop as from being photographed by a camera i . e Cop stops you you get points plus financial penalty . As it stands the penalty for a camera is just a slap on the wrist financially . The risk of having the licence taken away would be a deterant . You might want to look at an overseas model the UK for example on how they do it . But lol, just cos you didn't see your own face on it you have doubts it was you, haha . I dunno but don't they give you the date and time :confused: Smart arse :) Can you tell me what you were doing three weeks ago at 2:15pm? Thats assuming you do not follow a daily routine that makes it so much easier?	coldfront (15814)
1108084	2010-06-11 05:31:00	How expensive do you want the warrant to be? The standard for speedometers allows for reporting higher speeds than actual with no tolerance for under reporting . In my case at an indicated 50 a roadside display reads 46, I don't trust those displays to be 100% but it shows that I'd be more likely to be under the camera limits unless deliberately speeding . Maybe a bit drastic given the test are bi annual in this country and there is no accepatable standard for imported cars to comply with a level of accuracy unlike European Countries who insist on a set percentage of error to be observed on new cars . Policy could be tightened on car retailers who sell/import cars to check the accuracy of a speedometer?	coldfront (15814)
1108085	2010-06-11 05:36:00	My experience about the same, my speedo is about 3 or 4km faster than my quoted GPS indicated speed. So if you are using the speedo, you would have to speed 3-4km over plus the 5km Police threshold before you get ticketed. Easy to do though right? Let me ask you if you slow down before the lower speedlimit or accelerate after the higher limit?	coldfront (15814)
1108086	2010-06-11 05:53:00	Most speedos are optimistic and over-read . All you have to do is check your speedo against a gps or one of those speed signs . If you one of these unlucky people with an over-reading speedo man up if you havent checked it against one of these signs and take the consequences . Have a read of this . consumer . org . nz/news/view/speedometer-accuracy/page/1" target="_blank">www . consumer . org . nz How common are those road sign speedcheck signs? I my daily drive I dont see any I do know where there is one but it is in a 70kph area and with the vehicles I have used to pass it the error has been around 2kph either way which is nothing . Of the vehicles I drive I became concerned that the distance recorded did not match with the actual distance so had it checked by a firm in Wanganui who check the Police Speedometers . Interesting result was at the checked speed of 30 kph the cekc speed showed 28kph (good) at 50kph it was spot on but for every 10kph after that the speed was out by 1kph per every 10above 50 giving a reading of 105kph when the speedometer showed 100kph . Meanwhile a second vehicle checked showed 10kph out consitantly which explains why vehicles were often passing it! Therefore both vehicles travelling at 100kph on the speedomter yet one was gaining on the other by 15kph . Driver A thinking driver B driving to fast whicle driver B figured driver A travelling slow . Third vehicle checked was spot on the speeds . So you think thats not going to cause some problems on the single lane roads of New Zealand? I am quite happy for a zero tolerance on speeding! I fact I thought there was already but it turns out to be well known fact the Police can exercise a 10kph tolerance so waiving any penaltys up to 11kph over the limits . Especially in light that most speedometers show a higher speed than actually travelled .	coldfront (15814)
1108087	2010-06-11 23:36:00	RESULT !!!!:clap Letter in the Post today, No reasons given.	coldfront (15814)
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