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| Thread ID: 110354 | 2010-06-13 10:03:00 | Did you get under floor insulation in your home? | Strommer (42) | PC World Chat |
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| 1109840 | 2010-06-14 06:21:00 | My house was built 5 years ago. When laying the conc,they put in sheets of 2" polystyrene,which certainly seems to work as floor,even here in Ch Ch is always warm. I note that it is not done round here as a general rule. Terry is usualy on the ball when discussing such matters,he seems to forget the wind assisting the cold air on its way up ones jacksy! |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1109841 | 2010-06-14 11:44:00 | I thought you could only get the subsidy if both the floor and roof were done ? Is this not the case ? Quote from govt. website.... What can I use the funding for? Funding can be used to install: * Ceiling and underfloor insulation, up to a required standard (please note, if you can access the space, you have to get both ceiling and underfloor insulation done to qualify for funding). * A clean, efficient heating device in the primary living space, if it does not already have a heating device that meets current standards (please note - you are only eligible for funding towards a heater if you have proper insulation first - your service provider will be able to tell you if you qualify). * The following energy efficiency measures where necessary: a hot water cylinder wrap, pipe lagging, draught-stopping, and a ground moisture barrier. |
globe (11482) | ||
| 1109842 | 2010-06-14 12:01:00 | yep cold air falls, but when you have a howling wind and its blowing up from under a house its still cool. Carpet may be a good idea, but not in a kitchen, or bathroom. Sometimes when its real windy and its coming from the right direction, you can still feel air coming up from under the house, even through the carpet. Our front lounge has some sort if installation under the floor (it's an extension) and its noticeably warmer than the rest of the house. Edited: just regarding the saftey side of things, from the expol site FAQ: I suppose it depends on how your subfloor area under your house is constructed. I've got an old state house, and it has a concrete perimeter wall, and tiny air vents around it, so it doesn't get any wind coming through it. However I have seen some that are just boards with huge gaps in between them, which I can see would be a problem for air. Polystyrene is OK, but you can also use fibreglass or polyester under the floor with a foil layer over the top. The main problem with polystyrene is that it can eat into plastic wires and pipes, so it has to be isolated from those. I think with the home insulation scheme, you must first have your ceiling insulated, before you cando anything else. They also only cover the full installation, so it doesn't cover it if you want to buy the materials and do it yourself, which is a huge pity, as it is one of the easiest DIY jobs to do. It is still probably cheaper to just buy the insulation and do it yourself, than to get the subsidy. I have seen some insulation installed by 'professionals' that is done on the cheap and very poorly done. For some types of insulation you need to staple it onto the studs to stop it sagging and compacting over time, especially the wool stuff, but I have seen installers just shove it in, leaving huge gaps. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 1109843 | 2010-06-14 12:08:00 | My house was built 5 years ago. When laying the conc,they put in sheets of 2" polystyrene,which certainly seems to work as floor,even here in Ch Ch is always warm. I note that it is not done round here as a general rule. Terry is usualy on the ball when discussing such matters,he seems to forget the wind assisting the cold air on its way up ones jacksy! Many of the spec house being built are built to a strict budget, so it is never installed. eg. those brick mcdonald type of houses that they build on mass. If you have underfloor heating coils you normally built in polystyrene under the concrete, to keep in the heat. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 1109844 | 2010-06-14 12:31:00 | I have seen some insulation installed by 'professionals' that is done on the cheap and very poorly done. 'Professionals'? Aren't many of the companies doing insulation newly created using minimum wage workers just to take advantage of the subsidies? |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 1109845 | 2010-06-14 12:56:00 | 'Professionals'? Aren't many of the companies doing insulation newly created using minimum wage workers just to take advantage of the subsidies? Yeah, thats why I put 'professionals' in '', becasue there are no qualifications required. Thats why it is so strange that the subsidy doesn't apply if you want to do it yourself. Infact I know I would do a far better job myself, as I would take time to put it in properly, and would probably install more, to give a greater R value, thus giving better insulation. Although I suppose part of the reason the subsidy is even there is part of the governments recession plans, to get people into employment. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 1109846 | 2010-06-14 19:52:00 | I thought you could only get the subsidy if both the floor and roof were done ? Is this not the case ? Quote from govt. website.... What can I use the funding for? Funding can be used to install: * Ceiling and underfloor insulation, up to a required standard (please note, if you can access the space, you have to get both ceiling and underfloor insulation done to qualify for funding). * A clean, efficient heating device in the primary living space, if it does not already have a heating device that meets current standards (please note - you are only eligible for funding towards a heater if you have proper insulation first - your service provider will be able to tell you if you qualify). * The following energy efficiency measures where necessary: a hot water cylinder wrap, pipe lagging, draught-stopping, and a ground moisture barrier. Basically as we found out if you get them to quote both then they have to do both to allow you to have the subsidy. However if you only get a quote for underfloor you can get the subsidy for that, so be careful of what you get quoted, in the end I did it myself and it was even cheaper than getting it subsidised (I used to be a builder so have done plenty in the past) |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 1109847 | 2010-06-14 20:55:00 | I thought you could only get the subsidy if both the floor and roof were done ? Is this not the case ? Quote from govt. website.... What can I use the funding for? Funding can be used to install: * Ceiling and underfloor insulation, up to a required standard (please note, if you can access the space, you have to get both ceiling and underfloor insulation done to qualify for funding). * A clean, efficient heating device in the primary living space, if it does not already have a heating device that meets current standards (please note - you are only eligible for funding towards a heater if you have proper insulation first - your service provider will be able to tell you if you qualify). * The following energy efficiency measures where necessary: a hot water cylinder wrap, pipe lagging, draught-stopping, and a ground moisture barrier. That is correct, we got the ceiling done and the limited underflooring that is accessible. I am not sure if you would be eligible if you required larger projects to access those areas. For us we did the ceiling and the (very) limited underflooring, so that enabled us to get the heating subsidy. We didn't need to modify anything large. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 1109848 | 2010-06-14 22:18:00 | Yeah, thats why I put 'professionals' in '', becasue there are no qualifications required. Thats why it is so strange that the subsidy doesn't apply if you want to do it yourself. Infact I know I would do a far better job myself, as I would take time to put it in properly, and would probably install more, to give a greater R value, thus giving better insulation. Although I suppose part of the reason the subsidy is even there is part of the governments recession plans, to get people into employment. Ours was done by HEET (yea note the name) Local Council sponsored before these grants came in and did not cost us a cent. Although that said I lost two days work because of waiting around for them to turn up. Then when they did I had to chase them up to come back to do the underfloor. The materials sat in my garage for nearly three weeks. 11 months on I had to get into the roof space and noticed they had missed an area of 5 sqmtrs in one of the several corners of the house an area you could not see from the hatch inspection of the work. So we rung them up! Month later someone came out and inspected and said yes they needed to come pit and do that area and some other parts not done! That was 3 months ago and the line is.....we will get to you when we have someone available in the area. I think if I had had to have paid something towards this I would have gone ballistic by now but then again it was done through the rates package so maybe I still need to go nuts at them. One thing I did notice on this HEET insulation is that some people got the windows, pipe lagging and a moisture mat installed! We just had Loft. underfloor and two badly fitted door strips installed. Have we noticed the differance though? Not sure to be honest. |
coldfront (15814) | ||
| 1109849 | 2010-06-14 22:29:00 | Bloody lucky here it does not get cold enough to worry about. My house has zero insulation in roof walls or floor buts its warm with the fire going. I have put in hot air system which sucks up the heat above the fire and sends it to the bedrooms. The floors are particle board so no cold air gets through it. | prefect (6291) | ||
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