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Thread ID: 110215 2010-06-08 02:36:00 iPhone 4 musings nofam (9009) PC World Chat
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1107988 2010-06-08 04:35:00 Anyone else distinctly underwhelmed by the feature set?


Iphone? That's for ipeople isn't it?

I bought my phone so I could:
txt with a decent typey keypad
Answer calls

Couldn't care less about anything else. 		pctek (84)
1107989 2010-06-08 04:43:00 Iphone? That's for ipeople isn't it?

I bought my phone so I could:
txt with a decent typey keypad
Answer calls

Couldn't care less about anything else.

That may be so PCT, and being the eminently practical person you are, I'm sure it's all you need.

But I bet you $10 to 10c that if I gave you an HTC Desire/Nexus One etc to use for a month you'd be :wub personified.

:D 		nofam (9009)
1107990 2010-06-08 04:57:00 Iphone? That's for ipeople isn't it?

I bought my phone so I could:
txt with a decent typey keypad
Answer calls

Couldn't care less about anything else.

so why read this thread? :-) 		robsonde (120)
1107991 2010-06-08 05:11:00 so why read this thread? :-)

apple bashing?

A well known tech journalist and apple fanboy ditched his iphone for the nexus one in January. I will be interested what to hear his views on the new iphone when he gets it. Still way too rich for my wallet, that goes for android as well 		plod (107)
1107992 2010-06-08 06:04:00 apple bashing?

A well known tech journalist and apple fanboy ditched his iphone for the nexus one in January. I will be interested what to hear his views on the new iphone when he gets it. Still way too rich for my wallet, that goes for android as well

Yeah they're not cheap, and certainly not for everybody, though I'd be interested on the details of the article of an apple fanboy ditching an iPhone for an N1.



Iphone? That's for ipeople isn't it?

I bought my phone so I could:
txt with a decent typey keypad
Answer calls

That's where we differ. I can literally do all my VoIP work from my current iPhone if I have to, and same for the Android (Potentially even more-so). Some people would rather a Nokia 1100, others a Smartphone. Each to their own ;)


Google too realise that knitting everything together in a fast, reliable, & open (free!) infrastructure is the way to get people interested, and Android 2.2 is a clear step in that direction.

And the Flash debacle is crazy IMHO - sure it's a bit of a bloated, insecure platform, but it's pretty much a web-standard for better or worse. And it's not a good look for Steve Jobs to criticize it when he has a vested interest in h.264, as Geoff Palmer point out in this months' PC World (Shameless Plug for a Good Article)

Yes a very good article, I was quite surprised by it!
I'm a big fan of the WebM project: http://www.webmproject.org
That said I'm not a fan of flash, but I'd rather have the *option* of it being on my phone than having it forced upon me not to have it.

It's also been very interesting to watch as Google branch out from more than just search engines and advertising to a technology company too! Definitely think you'd like the Keynote videos :D


I feel that 90% of the cool new stuff is in the OS and not the hardware.

and the OS upgrade is going to be free...
True, but if that 90% is only out of 5 "cool" features, that's still not a large amount of reason to upgrade. The hardware itself is nice, no doubt, but it's still (just) on-par with the rest of the latest smartphones, not above really in any way. The implementation is probably better defined as "different" or "unique" rather than innovative. Hell, who wants to be on WiFi to video chat all the time?

www.youtube.com
Watch it for approx 2 minutes and 20 seconds ;) 		Chilling_Silence (9)
1107993 2010-06-08 06:07:00 BTW - Geoff advertises after that article that his blog is up here: http://geeksinthemist.wordpress.com

But it's not for me? Did I miss something?

This also arrived in my inbox today: www.apple.com 		Chilling_Silence (9)
1107994 2010-06-08 06:21:00 Yeah they're not cheap, and certainly not for everybody, though I'd be interested on the details of the article of an apple fanboy ditching an iPhone for an N1.


Listen to any of leo laportes podcasts from the twit.tv network and you will hear him giving the N1 his praise.
As for flash, the only reason you would ever want it is for farmville. But wait, its been ported to the iphone and ipad. So no need to worry:lol:

P.S still waiting for your review on the macbook on your blog 		plod (107)
1107995 2010-06-08 06:35:00 Anyone else distinctly underwhelmed by the feature set? The CPU and screen are certainly a step forward, but they're really only giving the iPhone parity with modern ARM-based handsets, not pushing the smartphone market forward; very much the evolution vs revolution approach.

I'm certainly not knocking Apple, and credit where credit is due to them for creating a device which spawned a whole market sector, but I don't see much in the 4.0 that will worry HTC, or any other Android-aligned manufacturer; this (www.clove.co.uk mory+8GBMicroSDcard%29&Product=85A56848-7934-4DCF-8520-26B5BB58291B&Category=GROUP4) is available next week, and this (phandroid.com) is rumoured.

My opinion is that Apple are exactly victims of their own success; they are/were so wildly innovative that anything less that exceptional seems average by comparison, and in locking down the iPhone's 'ecosystem' to ensure that apps were of a desired standard, they've opened the door perfectly for an open-source alternative to come in with the same method of development/delivery, but with none of the restrictions. Sure, people want guaranteed quality, but I think most people would rather sacrifice a little certainly for a lot more choice.

Not another smartphone they should be :ban ed. it was ok when it was Apple & HTC but now theres so many no one really gives a ****.


That Samsung looks like an iPhone knock-off.... Not much in the way of innovation from a UI POV.

Looks like we've plateaued with regard to smartphones....

Bring on the folding/roll-up hi-res screens with batteries that can suck power directly from the air, I say!!

Yup it does why don't they call it the SciPhone oh wait it already exists. iPhones are just rip-off iPod touches that let you use Vodoo phone and Telecon. Everyone knows 3G sucks so why pay $700 for that. Buy a Ipod or other mp3/4 and a $50-100 phone. I say PcTek got it right.
Air powered batteries :thumbs:

p.s just cause I'm bashing iPhone doesn't mean I don't like crApple (as some users may put it) any more. 		icow (15313)
1107996 2010-06-08 06:35:00 the OS upgrade gets you:
* multi-tasking .
* improved email support .
* unified inbox .
* folders, for applications .
* improved exchange support .
* new VPN types .
* ipod control from within any application .
* improved cover art support .
* wall paper support .


the hardware upgrade gets you:
* better main camera .
* LED flash for camera .
* front camera .
* higher resolution screen .
* 802 . 11-N support .
* gyroscope .




feel free to add to this list anything i missed . 		robsonde (120)
1107997 2010-06-08 06:43:00 the OS upgrade gets you:
* multi-tasking .
* improved email support .
* unified inbox .
* folders, for applications .
* improved exchange support .
* new VPN types .
* ipod control from within any application .
* improved cover art support .
* wall paper support .


the hardware upgrade gets you:
* better main camera .
* LED flash for camera .
* front camera .
* higher resolution screen .
* 802 . 11-N support .
* gyroscope .




feel free to add to this list anything i missed .

Multitasking does sound good . 		icow (15313)
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